[rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitional RFC Editor recommendations now available
sm at resistor.net (SM) Tue, 30 November 2010 20:26 UTC
From: "sm at resistor.net"
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:26:53 -0800
Subject: [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitional RFC Editor recommendations now available
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Hello, At 00:47 23-11-10, Glenn Kowack wrote: >A new draft summarizing updated Transitional RFC Recommendations, >"draft-kowack-rfc-editor-model-v2-overview-00" is now available. >http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-kowack-rfc-editor-model-v2-overview/?include_text=1 It's odd to reference the datatracker for this draft. Is the document source "Network Working Group" (see RFC 5741)? Quoting the Abstract Section: "The RFC Editor is a set of functions that accepts draft documents from the community, makes edits and other changes for clarity and formal correctness, and publishes and archives openly-accessible RFCs. Editorial services are provided by a Production Center, publication and access services by a 'Publisher'. The RFC Series Editor is responsible for ensure ongoing operations as well as development of the Editor function and the Series." If that sums up the RFC Editor Model, do we really have to get into a long discussion about it? I don't think so. If the draft is to serve as a basis for coming up with a RFC Editor Model, it could reuse some of the text from RFC 5620. In Section 2.2: "For example, RFC Editor functions could be implemented under separate or joint contractual arrangements, and bidders may make proposals that could include one or more contractors. Determining the acceptability of various implementations is the responsibility of the RFC Series Editor and the IAOC, in consultation with the Policy Council." What is this Policy Council? In Section 2.3: "RFC Editor internal reporting structure is subject to change over time depending, for example, on plans and the manner in which contracts are awarded." This is internal affairs. I suggest leaving this up to the IOAC. From Section 3.3: "RFC Publisher and RFC Production Center contractors are recommended by the Series Editor and IAOC after an open RFP process, and approved by the IAB." What does the IAB have to do with contractual agreements? From Section 4.1: "The RFC Series Editor appointee is an individual. The Series Editor is designated by the IAB, and may be removed by the IAB, subject to contractual requirements." This is not an appointment; it is more of a contract. From Section 4.2: "The Series Editor is responsible for ensuring that the Editor policies are adhered to and developed in line with community interests." What community is that? The title of Section 4.2.5 is "Represent the Series to the Rest of the World". Is that really needed? From Section 4.3.2.2: "authoritative community entities (e.g., the IETF Trust regarding IP notices" The IETF Trust is not authoritative for Internet Protocol notices. :-) If the IAB wants to divest its responsibility and leave it to the REOC to run the RFC Series, it is free to do so. Having so many committee is a bad idea though. In Section 6.1: "Disagreements between RFC Editor Components and Model Participants" This is about contractual relationships. It does not matter what a RFC says as it cannot override a contract. To summarize, I am far from convinced after reading draft-kowack-rfc-editor-model-v2-overview. Regards, -sm
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Glenn Kowack
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Paul Hoffman
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Olaf Kolkman
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Dave CROCKER
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Dave CROCKER
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Ted Hardie
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Craig Partridge
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Leslie Daigle
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Ted Hardie
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Paul Hoffman
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] Representation to the community and rest … Paul Hoffman
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Paul Hoffman
- [rfc-i] On two committees (was: new draft summari… Andrew Sullivan
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Andrew Sullivan
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Dave CROCKER
- [rfc-i] On two committees Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Dave CROCKER
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Ole Jacobsen
- [rfc-i] Representation to the community and rest … Paul Hoffman
- [rfc-i] Representation to the community and rest … Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] Representation to the community and rest … Andrew Sullivan
- [rfc-i] Representation to the community and rest … Joel M. Halpern
- [rfc-i] Representation to the community and rest … Dave CROCKER
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Russ Housley
- [rfc-i] On two committees Russ Housley
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] On two committees Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Andrew Sullivan
- [rfc-i] On two committees Bob Braden
- [rfc-i] On two committees Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] On two committees Paul Hoffman
- [rfc-i] On two committees Olaf Kolkman
- [rfc-i] On two committees Olaf Kolkman
- [rfc-i] On two committees Olaf Kolkman
- [rfc-i] On too many committees John Levine
- [rfc-i] On two committees Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] On two committees Andrew Sullivan
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… SM
- [rfc-i] On two committees Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] On two committees Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] On two committees Olaf Kolkman
- [rfc-i] On two committees Dave CROCKER
- [rfc-i] On two committees Bob Braden
- [rfc-i] On two committees Bob Braden
- [rfc-i] On two committees Bob Braden
- [rfc-i] On two committees Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] On two committees Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… Brian E Carpenter
- [rfc-i] Fwd: new draft summarizing updated Transi… Glenn Kowack
- [rfc-i] Fwd: new draft summarizing updated Transi… Glenn Kowack
- [rfc-i] Fwd: Fwd: new draft summarizing updated T… Glenn Kowack
- [rfc-i] new draft summarizing updated Transitiona… SM