Re: [rrg] Rebooting the RRG

jnc@mercury.lcs.mit.edu (Noel Chiappa) Tue, 19 November 2013 13:58 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rrg] Rebooting the RRG
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    > From: Scott Brim <scott.brim@gmail.com>;

    > the IETF has said it doesn't want to come up with any more clever ways
    > to help organizations continue to squeeze more life out of IPv4
    > addresses. It will help with transition away from IPv4. 

Just like with NAT. The IETF would rather stick its head in the ground -
thereby ensuring that whatever happens, it will be done by individual actors,
in an incoherent way.

Like the Bourbons, the IETF has learned nothing, and forgotten nothing.

	Noel