Re: [rrg] Rebooting the RRG
Scott Brim <scott.brim@gmail.com> Fri, 15 November 2013 17:01 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rrg] Rebooting the RRG
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Tony, I didn't take this off-list yet since a small group hasn't stabilized. I figure you'll say when. I would be interested in exploring the scope of "routing" in the modern Internet. The RRG "is chartered to explore routing and addressing problems that are important to the development of the Internet but are not yet mature enough for engineering work within the IETF". I know we've always meant IP routing and addressing, but there is a lot more "routing" going on. For example, - multi-layer routing (using information from multiple layers) - research in SDN routing - explore the many things BGP is used for, for new meanings of "routing" - ICN (information-centric networking) Routing in ICNs is full of ideas, some of them repeating what we went through with IP, e.g. Dave Mills's dynamic hierarchical routing (I don't recall exactly what he called it). I haven't seen two-byte PIP come back from the dead but I wouldn't be surprised. ICNRG meets regularly at IETFs and SigComm. A couple of joint meetings to argue about routing would be quite interesting. Then there are IoT, DTN, satellite, and other self-assembled meshes - all possibly interrelated. Finally, routing for privacy. We have lots of efforts to distribute traffic to avoid surveillance. How could routing contribute? This might build on BGP multiple paths, or maybe source-asserted trees. That's all I have right now. Scott
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