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Re: [rtcweb] The MTI Codec Questions (what to ask and how to ask them)

Stefan Håkansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com> Wed, 05 November 2014 11:22 UTC

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From: Stefan Håkansson LK <stefan.lk.hakansson@ericsson.com>
To: Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com>, Matthew Kaufman <matthew@matthew.at>
Thread-Topic: [rtcweb] The MTI Codec Questions (what to ask and how to ask them)
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On 04/11/14 07:36, Justin Uberti wrote:
>     ps. Doing this with hums at a meeting just encourages filling the
>     room with people who aren't participating in the process but whose
>     employers have asked them to stuff the room to increase the hum
>     volume. Those people will all stand up for question #1, then leave
>     immediately after the hums are completed. Just like last time.
>
> I am shocked -- shocked -- at these allegations of room stuffing in our
> beloved IETF.  Surely the blue
> <http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/bluesheets/bluesheets-88-rtcweb-01.pdf>
> sheets
> <http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/bluesheets/bluesheets-88-rtcweb-02.pdf>
> from IETF 88 (the last time we discussed codecs, on day 2) will put to
> rest these claims.
>
> Wait...
>
> Company 	Day2 RTCWEB Attendees 	Day1 RTCWEB Attendees 	Delta
> cisco 	25 	15 	10
> mozilla 	12 	12 	0
> ericsson 	10 	5 	5

When I read the blue sheets I get 9 and 6 respectively. One of the three 
delta persons was Bo Burman who presented 
http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/88/slides/slides-88-rtcweb-8.pdf.

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