Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04

I'm starting to think that we need a less clumsy name for the webRTC media wire protocol 
ICE/STUN/TURN/SRTP/DTLS/RTCP/Opus/VP8/ etc...

It looks likely to take on a life of it's own outside the browser.

T.

On 3 Oct 2013, at 15:10, Christer Holmberg wrote:

> Hi,
>  
> Just to be clear, with “WebRTC endpoint” I guess you do not include gateways?
>  
> Maybe we should talk about “JSEP endpoints”, or something..
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Christer
>  
> From: rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Justin Uberti
> Sent: 1. lokakuuta 2013 1:30
> To: Iñaki Baz Castillo
> Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [rtcweb] No a=ice-lite in JSEP-04
>  
> Yes. In the offers and answers that WebRTC endpoints create, a=ice-lite is prohibited, since WebRTC endpoints must support "Full" ICE. 
>  
> The remote endpoint may of course support only ICE Lite, and WebRTC implementations must work properly with such endpoints.
>  
> This isn't normatively indicated anywhere that I could find, so I plan to add specifics on this to the next version of JSEP.
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>  
>  
> 
> On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:32 AM, Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote:
> 2013/9/30 Rauschenbach, Uwe (NSN - DE/Munich) <uwe.rauschenbach@nsn.com>:
> > JSEP-04 prohibits the use of a=ice-lite. It is stated that it is incompatible with I-D.ietf-rtcweb-rtp-usage.
> > Can you point out which specific aspect of this draft ICE Lite is incompatible with?
> >
> > In deployments where one endpoint is a browser and another one is a gateway connected to the public Internet, it makes sense to allow ICE lite.
> 
> Without reading JSEP-04 I expect that it is not allowed for a web
> browser to indicate "a=ice-lite", but a server can do that. Anyhow,
> AFAIR the usage of ICE lite is fully transparent for the non ICE lite
> endpoint.
> 
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