Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF in signaling? (Re: DTMF usecase before DTMF API)
Mary Barnes <mary.ietf.barnes@gmail.com> Sat, 19 November 2011 02:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF in signaling? (Re: DTMF usecase before DTMF API)
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On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 4:05 AM, Iñaki Baz Castillo <ibc@aliax.net> wrote: > 2011/11/18 Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no>: >>> H.323 and SIP both offer a signaling-plane means of indicating DTMF, other >>> than RFC 2833/4733. For H.323 it's H.245 User Input Indications (UII) >>> messages. For SIP it's officially KPML (RFC 4730), but in practice it's not >>> popular. Two vendors I know of support it, but it's a drop in the bucket >>> compared to rfc2833 or SIP INFO. >> >> OK, thanks. >> >> So the discussion that is really part of the IETF's task here is to pick one >> (and preferably one) way that WebRTC applications are recommended to do >> DTMF. > > In case http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-kaplan-dispatch-info-dtmf-package-00 > becomes a standard, there is no need to send DTMF over the media > stream (when interoperating with SIP networks). Since this just > concerns the in-the-wire signaling it becomes up to the application > developer. > That document will not become a standard. We already dispatched it (scroll down to IETF-79): http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/dispatch/trac/wiki Mary. > -- > Iñaki Baz Castillo > <ibc@aliax.net> > _______________________________________________ > rtcweb mailing list > rtcweb@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >
- [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be enc… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Jonathan Lennox
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Michael Thornburgh
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Neil Stratford
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Randell Jesup
- [rtcweb] DTMF usecase before DTMF API [was RE: Th… Ravindran, Parthasarathi
- Re: [rtcweb] DTMF usecase before DTMF API [was RE… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] DTMF usecase before DTMF API [was RE… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] DTMF usecase before DTMF API [was RE… Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] DTMF usecase before DTMF API [was RE… Wolfgang Beck
- [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF in s… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] DTMF usecase before DTMF API [was RE… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Iñaki Baz Castillo
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Mary Barnes
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] Support DTMF "codec" or expose DTMF … Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] The DTMF API [Was: Traffic should be… Roman Shpount