Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for host candidates
Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> Wed, 13 June 2018 03:20 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for host candidates
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PTAL at https://github.com/juberti/draughts/pull/103. It would be great to have some time to discuss this in Montreal. On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 4:36 PM Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> wrote: > Given the general support here, I'll start writing up a PR to incorporate > the aforementioned changes, with the goal to avoid emitting private IPv4 > addresses in the default mode. > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 12:14 PM Justin Uberti <juberti@google.com> wrote: > >> One option could be that Mode 2 incorporates RFC 4941 stateless IPv6 >> addresses, if supported. Otherwise, mDNS is used. This mode would never >> include RFC 1918 IPv4 addresses. >> >> This would work well in more environments and still provide significant >> privacy improvements. >> >> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 12:08 PM Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> wrote: >> >>> I’d like to point out that, while this works fine in most residential >>> settings, it’s pretty broken for multi-segment enterprise deployments. >>> >>> /a >>> >>> On Jun 12, 2018, at 11:55, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Justin Uberti < >>> juberti=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> This is a significant improvement and I think we will want to >>>> incorporate this suggestion. Is this something we could do as part of this >>>> WGLC, or should we look for another option? >>>> >>>> >>> Without having cleared this with Cullen or Sean, my personal chair-hat >>> opinion is that we can do this in WGLC. If a new technical solution is >>> found during WG last call, I see no reason not to incorporate it. >>> >>> That said, I see two no-hats issues that will want pretty strong text. >>> The first is that these are really UUIDs, not traditional mDNS names. >>> We'll need text to strongly discourage the re-use of an existing mDNS name, >>> since those can leak other information. Second, we'll need text on what to >>> do if this name can't be registered or resolved in a particular environment >>> (not every network supports mDNS, after all). Does it go back to the >>> previous Mode 2 behavior, or skip private addresses entirely? I think the >>> right idea is "go back to the previous Mode 2 behavior" personally, but >>> text on it one way or the other is required. >>> >>> regards, >>> >>> Ted >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> rtcweb mailing list >>>> rtcweb@ietf.org >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rtcweb mailing list >>> rtcweb@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >>> >>>
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Matthew Kaufman
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… youenn fablet
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… T H Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Cullen Jennings
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Joseph Lorenzo Hall
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Lennart Grahl
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Lennart Grahl
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Adam Roach
- [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for host c… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… youenn fablet
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… youenn fablet
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… westhawk
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… westhawk
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… youenn fablet
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… youenn fablet
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] IP handling: Using mDNS names for ho… Christer Holmberg