[SAFE] FW: [OPS-AREA] FW: [tsv-area] BOF request under consideration: SAFE

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Thu, 11 October 2007 13:33 UTC

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Hi,

This was sent to the V6OPS list by Pekka Savola. I forward it to the
SAFE list with his permission for commenting.

Magnus Westerlund


-----Original Message-----
From: Pekka Savola [mailto:pekkas@netcore.fi]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2007 7:07 PM
To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
Cc: ops-area@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [OPS-AREA] FW: [tsv-area] BOF request under consideration:
SAFE

On Mon, 8 Oct 2007, Romascanu, Dan (Dan) wrote:
> ICE and its companion protocol STUN have been successfully deployed on

> the Internet for NAT traversal.  ICE and STUN have several 
> characteristics which contribute to their success:
>
>  1. incremental deployment.  ICE and STUN are functional without any
>     modifications to existing NATs.
>  2. nested NATs.  ICE and STUN work when there are multiple NATs
>     between a host and the Internet.
>  3. topology unaware.  ICE and STUN are not configured with
>     information about NATs, firewalls, or their locations -- only
>     with the IP address of a server on the Internet.
>  4. simple security model.  If a host behind a NAT is allowed to send
>     a packet across the NAT, it is allowed to receive a response.
>  5. works on routed networks, which allows operation in both
>     enterprise networks and home networks.

Teredo also fulfills these characteristics (and has none of the
drawbacks listed later).

I'm confident that the BOF proposers will be able to invent new
drawbacks to exclude Teredo from consideration, though.

-- 
Pekka Savola                 "You each name yourselves king, yet the
Netcore Oy                    kingdom bleeds."
Systems. Networks. Security. -- George R.R. Martin: A Clash of Kings


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