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Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics

Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 18 October 2023 22:18 UTC

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Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2023 18:18:19 -0400
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Thanks Daniel!

Will add it to the agenda.

Regards,
 Rifaat


On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 5:39 PM Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>
wrote:

> Hi Rifaat--
>
> On Wed 2023-10-18 09:20:17 -0400, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef wrote:
>
> > Are there any implementations of this mechanism?
>
> I don't know of any implementations.  The mechanism itself hasn't yet
> been fully specified, as you can see from the open questions in the
> draft.  I think the reason to bring it to the IETF is to get feedback
> from implementers about how they expect such a signal would work best
> for them.
>
> > Who else showed interest in this work?
>
> Aron Wussler from Proton (in Cc), and several folks in discussion about
> Thunderbird seemed interested.  The idea originally came up originally
> at the OpenPGP e-mail summit several years ago (under the name "Mail
> STS") but got back-burnered while everyone was working on other things:
>
>   https://wiki.gnupg.org/OpenPGPEmailSummit201910Notes#Workshop:_Mail_STS
>
> > Can you provide links to the other discussions you referred to below?
>
> The most recent spur for discussion was on the Thunderbird planning
> e-mail list, where we were discussing UX indicators (or the lack
> thereof) for broken signatures:
>
>   https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/planning/T5355f1514594f892
>
> The followup discussion specifically about the "expect-signed" idea is
> here:
>
>   https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/planning/T52c450e29763a00e
>
> hope this is useful,
>
>         --dkg
>

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