Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics
Meiling Chen <chenmeiling@chinamobile.com> Mon, 30 October 2023 03:19 UTC
Return-Path: <chenmeiling@chinamobile.com>
X-Original-To: secdispatch@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: secdispatch@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4B9C14CF0C for <secdispatch@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 20:19:38 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.595
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.595 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_KAM_HTML_FONT_INVALID=0.01, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2UrMIsBAUXuT for <secdispatch@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 20:19:34 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from cmccmta1.chinamobile.com (cmccmta1.chinamobile.com [221.176.66.79]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21178C14CEFE for <secdispatch@ietf.org>; Sun, 29 Oct 2023 20:19:32 -0700 (PDT)
X-RM-TagInfo: emlType=0
X-RM-SPAM-FLAG: 00000000
Received: from spf.mail.chinamobile.com (unknown[172.16.121.9]) by rmmx-syy-dmz-app02-12002 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee2653f20c191c-f941e; Mon, 30 Oct 2023 11:19:31 +0800 (CST)
X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee2653f20c191c-f941e
X-RM-TagInfo: emlType=0
X-RM-SPAM-FLAG: 00000000
Received: from cmcc-PC (unknown[10.2.52.2]) by rmsmtp-syy-appsvr05-12005 (RichMail) with SMTP id 2ee5653f20c08ba-178bb; Mon, 30 Oct 2023 11:19:31 +0800 (CST)
X-RM-TRANSID: 2ee5653f20c08ba-178bb
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 11:19:30 +0800
From: Meiling Chen <chenmeiling@chinamobile.com>
To: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: secdispatch <secdispatch@ietf.org>
References: <CADNypP-Ve2J2X26dJ_1myKqcX6THJUUAJUc+P4e3diB1YjLJrA@mail.gmail.com>, <202310191139225524293@chinamobile.com>, <CADNypP9tsAsWL6X82dC2DLho-qMn0kcRcTMyC3K2N4fzbeW9LA@mail.gmail.com>, <202310201018004606366@chinamobile.com>, <CADNypP9UR2ixLRdoktnfMUmr71uU=kyZoNsiDpZ1qF38kOMjKw@mail.gmail.com>, <2023102414483850249751@chinamobile.com>, <CADNypP_h4s5-F=rwcG593f0j9BuNTmrC7Jt++t3ewFSE5y9q7g@mail.gmail.com>
X-Priority: 3
X-Has-Attach: no
X-Mailer: Foxmail 7.2.9.115[cn]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Message-ID: <2023103011193006981925@chinamobile.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_001_NextPart842766250742_=----"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/secdispatch/kxyvgRDFx5vsCD99SZ_w00VEWU4>
Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics
X-BeenThere: secdispatch@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: Security Dispatch <secdispatch.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/secdispatch>, <mailto:secdispatch-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/secdispatch/>
List-Post: <mailto:secdispatch@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:secdispatch-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/secdispatch>, <mailto:secdispatch-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2023 03:19:38 -0000
Hi Rifaat, I am trying to address these questions. 1.pointers to prior discussions https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/115/slides/slides-115-secdispatch-secure-routing-00.pdf https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/116/slides/slides-116-secdispatch-security-functions-capabilities-exposuresecure-routing-update-00.pdf 2. pointers to implementations Currently, there is no code implementation available, we will consider it later on. 3.summarizing prior engagement with existing WGs draft-chen-bgp-ls-security-capability-00 first presented at IETF115, Susan suggested going to IDR, and this draft now is in IDR WG. 4.summarizing who would want to advance this work We have seen some discussions on secure paths in IETF, such as draft-voit-rats-trustworthy-path-routing(Cisco,Juniper), trust-enhanced networking(fujistu), and path validation(Huawei) which will host side meeting during ietf118 . Frankly, we want to attract more interested people for the secure path topic. Best, Meiling From: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef Date: 2023-10-24 19:32 To: Meiling Chen CC: secdispatch Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Can you address the following: pointers to ongoing/prior discussions, pointers to implementations summarizing prior engagement with existing WGs summarizing who would want to advance this work Regards, Rifaat On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 2:48 AM Meiling Chen <chenmeiling@chinamobile.com> wrote: Hi Rifaat, 10 or 15 minutes is enough. These questions are indeed helpful for understanding. We have two drafts for presentation: 1.draft-chen-secure-path-architecture-00, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-secure-path-architecture/ 2.draft-chen-idr-bgp-ls-security-capability-02 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-idr-bgp-ls-security-capability/ The topic of secure paths or secure routing has been mentioned in my other two drafts: draft-chen-secure-routing-use-cases and draft-chen-secure-routing-requirements. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-secure-routing-use-cases/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-secure-routing-requirements/ There is currently no suitable working group on secure paths, but in WG RATS draft-voit-rats-trustworthy-path-routing mentioned the same requirements. We welcome all interested parties to contribute to the topic of secure paths, the secure path will be the specific implementation of network deterministic security. Best, Meiling From: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef Date: 2023-10-23 06:17 To: Meiling Chen CC: secdispatch Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Hi Meiling, To consider adding this to the agenda, please answer the questions specified in the following questions as specified in the link below: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/secdispatch#requesting-time-on-the-agenda pointers to a draft(s) pointers to ongoing/prior discussions pointers to implementations pointers to any other background materials summarizing prior engagement with existing WGs summarizing who would want to advance this work desired next steps desired time for discussion Regards, Rifaat On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 10:18 PM Meiling Chen <chenmeiling@chinamobile.com> wrote: Hi Rifaat, I understand your concerns, although this draft is also being updated in IDR, the new topic we need to advance is secure path, there is no suitable working group for this topic. Best, Meiling From: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef Date: 2023-10-19 19:38 To: Meiling Chen CC: secdispatch Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Hi Meiling, Please, take a look at the following link for more information on what details we are looking for to help the WG form an opinion on this topic: https://wiki.ietf.org/group/secdispatch#requesting-time-on-the-agenda Regards, Rifaat On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 11:39 PM Meiling Chen <chenmeiling@chinamobile.com> wrote: Hi Rifaat, I need 10 mins for my draft, we have new updates this time. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-idr-bgp-ls-security-capability/ Best, Meiling From: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef Date: 2023-10-10 04:17 To: secdispatch Subject: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics All, As per the preliminary agenda, we have a 90 minutes session on Monday at 15:30 - 17:00. Please, reply to this email or directly to the chair if you have topics that you would like to discuss in Prague. Regards, Rifaat
- [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Daniel Kahn Gillmor
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics 李林哲
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics 李林哲
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Meiling Chen
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Meiling Chen
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Meiling Chen
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
- Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics Meiling Chen