Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics

[Meiling Chen <[e-mail]>]

Hi Rifaat,
I am trying to address these questions. 

1.pointers to prior discussions
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/115/slides/slides-115-secdispatch-secure-routing-00.pdf
https://www.ietf.org/proceedings/116/slides/slides-116-secdispatch-security-functions-capabilities-exposuresecure-routing-update-00.pdf 

2. pointers to implementations
Currently, there is no code implementation available, we will consider it later on.

3.summarizing prior engagement with existing WGs
draft-chen-bgp-ls-security-capability-00 first presented at IETF115, Susan suggested going to IDR, and this draft now is in IDR WG.

4.summarizing who would want to advance this work
We have seen some discussions on secure paths in IETF, such as draft-voit-rats-trustworthy-path-routing(Cisco,Juniper), trust-enhanced networking(fujistu), and path validation(Huawei) which will host side meeting during ietf118 . Frankly, we want to attract more interested people for the secure path topic.


Best,
Meiling 
From: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
Date: 2023-10-24 19:32
To: Meiling Chen
CC: secdispatch
Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics
Can you address the following:
pointers to ongoing/prior discussions, 
pointers to implementations
summarizing prior engagement with existing WGs
summarizing who would want to advance this work

Regards,
 Rifaat



On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 2:48 AM Meiling Chen <[e-mail]> wrote:
Hi Rifaat,
10 or 15 minutes is enough.

These questions are indeed helpful for understanding.
We have two drafts for presentation:
1.draft-chen-secure-path-architecture-00,
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-secure-path-architecture/
2.draft-chen-idr-bgp-ls-security-capability-02
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-idr-bgp-ls-security-capability/

The topic of secure paths or secure routing has been mentioned in my other two drafts:
draft-chen-secure-routing-use-cases and draft-chen-secure-routing-requirements.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-secure-routing-use-cases/ 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-secure-routing-requirements/ 

There is currently no suitable working group on secure paths, 
but in WG RATS draft-voit-rats-trustworthy-path-routing mentioned the same requirements.

We welcome all interested parties to contribute to the topic of secure paths, the secure path will be the specific implementation of network deterministic security.

Best,
Meiling
 
From: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
Date: 2023-10-23 06:17
To: Meiling Chen
CC: secdispatch
Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics
Hi Meiling,

To consider adding this to the agenda, please answer the questions specified in the following questions as specified in the link below:
https://wiki.ietf.org/group/secdispatch#requesting-time-on-the-agenda

pointers to a draft(s)
pointers to ongoing/prior discussions
pointers to implementations
pointers to any other background materials
summarizing prior engagement with existing WGs
summarizing who would want to advance this work
desired next steps
desired time for discussion


Regards,
 Rifaat


On Thu, Oct 19, 2023 at 10:18 PM Meiling Chen <[e-mail]> wrote:
Hi Rifaat,
I understand your concerns, although this draft is also being updated in IDR, the new topic we need to advance is secure path, there is no suitable working group for this topic.

Best,
Meiling
 
From: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
Date: 2023-10-19 19:38
To: Meiling Chen
CC: secdispatch
Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics
Hi Meiling,

Please, take a look at the following link for more information on what details we are looking for to help the WG form an opinion on this topic:
https://wiki.ietf.org/group/secdispatch#requesting-time-on-the-agenda

Regards,
 Rifaat




On Wed, Oct 18, 2023 at 11:39 PM Meiling Chen <[e-mail]> wrote:
Hi Rifaat,
I need 10 mins for my draft, we have new updates this time.

https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-chen-idr-bgp-ls-security-capability/ 

Best,
Meiling
 
From: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef
Date: 2023-10-10 04:17
To: secdispatch
Subject: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics
All,

As per the preliminary agenda, we have a 90 minutes session on Monday at 15:30 - 17:00.

Please, reply to this email or directly to the chair if you have topics that you would like to discuss in Prague.

Regards,
 Rifaat