Re: [Slim] Negotiation issue in draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language

"Randall Gellens" <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org> Sat, 17 February 2018 09:52 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Slim] Negotiation issue in draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language
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Hi Bernard,

Putting a language in an answer that was not in the offer is an unusual 
case (as the text says).  I don’t think we need to add more text 
(normative or descriptive) about it.

—Randall

On 16 Feb 2018, at 19:36, Bernard Aboba wrote:

> Yes, the proposed changes seem good. One question: is there enough
> normative language about adding languages to an Answer that were not 
> in the
> Offer? For example, can this only occur if the Answerer has no 
> languages in
> common with the Offerer? Or can an Answerer add any languages(s) they 
> would
> put into an Offer if roles were reversed?
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 02:39 Gunnar Hellström 
> <gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se>
> wrote:
>
>> I find that the changes to version -23 prepared by Randall and 
>> provided in
>> this archive mail are good:
>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/slim/current/msg01289.html
>>
>> That version allows answers to contain languages not contained in the
>> offer (that was already allowed and well specified in version -23),
>> and allows multiple languages per media and direction in the answer.
>>
>> I think both of these conditions are good and important for 
>> successful use
>> of the draft.
>> We need to imagine all kinds of feasible applications, e.g. the 
>> decision
>> on including interpreting resources taken by the offeror after 
>> receiving
>> the answer. That calls for providing the full and true picture about 
>> the
>> supported languages in the answer.
>>
>> So, I repeat my comment from
>> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/slim/current/msg01297.html
>> "I find the diff you sent to be good, and also version -23 solving 
>> all
>> other issues in a good way. So, I vote for applying your proposed 
>> changes
>> on -23 and hope that that can be the final version."
>>
>> Gunnar
>>
>>
>>
>> --Randall
>>
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--Randall