Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Wed, 03 August 2022 20:15 UTC
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Subject: Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs
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David von Oheimb <David.von.Oheimb@siemens.com> wrote:
> Let's keep the original field names. Also because this underlines the
> important fact that we do not change the ASN.1 syntax at all, which is
> critical for bits-on-the-wire compatibility, but we just clarify its
> use and interpretation.
I'm okay with that.
> I've just made a pass on lamps-rfc7030-csrattrs.mkd in the GitHub
> repository. Its new version contains various suggestions for
> improvements here and there. Also updated the subjectAltName example
> to be of the more usual form of a dNSName and inserted two
> questions/remarks:
Why did you change the RFC8994/ACP example from a real acp example name to domain.example?
Is there a reason not to include the line numbers from dumpasn1?
In the actual content, it goes from having the critical value shown, to
having:
+ OCTET STRING, encapsulates {
+ SEQUENCE {
+ [2] 'domain.example'
+ }
+ }
+ }
which I don't understand at all. Is this a different dumpasn1 version?
if not, what are the actual bits on the wire changes?
> (TODO: Do we want to allow an empty extnValue (which is of type
> OCTET STRING), which would mean that the client is told to include
> an X.509 extension of the given type and fill in the concrete value
> itself?)
Yes, I thought we allowed exactly that before, as:
Attribute: type = extensionRequest (1.2.840.113549.1.9.14)
value = macAddress (1.3.6.1.1.1.1.22)
in RFC7030.
> (TODO: Note that this mechanism does not support telling the client
> to include in the CSR a specific subject DN, simply because there is
> no OID for this. I think we should better make this clear, or we
> have to define such an OID if setting a subject name should be
> supported.)
I don't understand.
Telling the client to include a specific subject is exactly the problem we
are dealing with... or are you making a distinction here between subject DN
and subjectAltName?
> I also corrected the spelling of my (co-author's) name in
> presentations/ietf114-lamps-csrattrs.{fodp,pdf}.
Sorry about that.
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Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca> . o O ( IPv6 IøT consulting )
Sandelman Software Works Inc, Ottawa and Worldwide
- [lamps] strugling with CSRAttrs Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] strugling with CSRAttrs David von Oheimb
- Re: [lamps] strugling with CSRAttrs Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs David von Oheimb
- Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs David von Oheimb
- Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs Corey Bonnell
- Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs David von Oheimb
- Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs Michael Richardson
- [lamps] examples in lamps-rfc7030-csrattrs Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] examples in lamps-rfc7030-csrattrs Corey Bonnell
- Re: [lamps] examples in lamps-rfc7030-csrattrs Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] examples in lamps-rfc7030-csrattrs Corey Bonnell
- Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs David von Oheimb
- Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs Corey Bonnell
- [lamps] Fixed the RFC 8994 / ACP Subject Alternat… David von Oheimb
- Re: [lamps] Fixed the RFC 8994 / ACP Subject Alte… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Fixed the RFC 8994 / ACP Subject Alte… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Fixed the RFC 8994 / ACP Subject Alte… von Oheimb, David
- Re: [lamps] Fixed the RFC 8994 / ACP Subject Alte… Esko Dijk
- Re: [lamps] Fixed the RFC 8994 / ACP Subject Alte… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] Fixed the RFC 8994 / ACP Subject Alte… Esko Dijk
- Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs Russ Housley
- [lamps] IANA Considerations text for OID allocati… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] IANA Considerations text for OID allo… Russ Housley
- Re: [lamps] IANA Considerations text for OID allo… Michael Richardson
- Re: [lamps] [EXTERNAL] Re: IANA Considerations te… Mike Ounsworth
- Re: [lamps] IANA Considerations text for OID allo… Tim Hollebeek
- Re: [lamps] struggling with CSRAttrs Michael Richardson