Re: [spring] WG Adoption call - draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-requirement - draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-analysis

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Subject: Re: [spring] WG Adoption call - draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-requirement - draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-analysis
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Bruno,

Thanks. This clears up the confusion.

I support adoption.

                                  Ron






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From: bruno.decraene@orange.com <bruno.decraene@orange.com>
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To: Ron Bonica <rbonica@juniper.net>
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Subject: RE: WG Adoption call - draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-requirement - draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-analysis

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Ron,

It looks to me that you are quite well aware of the whole IETF process; but if not [1] may be a good starting pointer.

This WG adoption call is not expected to be any different than other WG adoption calls.

You are right that WG adoption of a document means that the WG own the document and so its content. But WG adoption of a document only make sense if the wg believe that the document is a good starting point: we are not adopting the title but the whole document.

Your below email is not crystal clear to me with regards to whether or not you have a concern with the document.
If you have specific concern(s) on the document or some part/sentences in the document, could you please state those concerns on the mailing list?

>From the informational document that you have cited, below are two questions which seem related to your email. If you wish to, you are also welcome to voice your opinion on these two points.

   *  Does the document provide an acceptable platform for continued effort by the working group?

   *  What are the process or technical objections to adoption of the draft?


> If so, I support adoption of this draft.

Which one?


[1] https://www.ietf.org/standards/process/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.ietf.org/standards/process/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!XORaRAzP4eTP5TQKr2ujYE5WK4Cy0_jornjNH4rmA6EVd5o35UD5BZnRhn-sVLRh$>

--Bruno


From: Ron Bonica [mailto:rbonica@juniper.net]
Sent: Friday, September 10, 2021 9:16 PM
To: DECRAENE Bruno INNOV/NET <bruno.decraene@orange.com<mailto:bruno.decraene@orange.com>>; spring@ietf.org<mailto:spring@ietf.org>
Subject: RE: WG Adoption call - draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-requirement - draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-analysis

Bruno,

When a WG adopts a design team draft, I assume that the draft becomes subject to the following guidelines from RFC7221:

"Once a working group adopts a draft, the document is owned by the working group and can be changed however the working group decides, within the bounds of IETF process and the working group charter.  Absent explicit agreement, adopting a document does not automatically mean that the working group has agreed to all of its content.  So a working group (or its charter) might explicitly dictate the basis for retaining, removing, or modifying some or       all of a draft's content, technical details, or the like. However, in the absence of such constraints, it is worth having the adoption process include a sub-process of gathering working group concerns about the existing draft and flagging them explicitly."

Do I have that right?

If so, I support adoption of this draft.

                                                                Ron



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Subject: [spring] WG Adoption call - draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-requirement - draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-analysis

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Dear WG,


The Design Team has produced two documents:
- A requirement document: draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-requirement
- A solution analysis document: draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-analysis

Both have been presented to the WG and triggered some discussions but are still individual documents.
We believe it's now time for the WG to consider taking ownership of those two documents.
Note that, especially for those two documents, WG adoption does not necessarily mean RFC publication in particular if it turns out that the benefit of long term archive would not justify the WG and IESG effort to finalize those two documents.


This message starts a 2 week WG adoption call, ending September  20th 2021, for:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-requirement<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-srcompdt-spring-compression-requirement__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!T1i99K3HoodKT8vePZSAAOBS5cz0a3fTWlQEk5xTiZa05lP82zMKOvwMhUozCY2f$>
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