Re: [stir] Call Forward/Follow-me
Alan Johnston <alan.b.johnston@gmail.com> Fri, 07 June 2013 18:23 UTC
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From: Alan Johnston <alan.b.johnston@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [stir] Call Forward/Follow-me
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I think that History-Info should be the solution going forward, certainly for SIP networks. - Alan - On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Rosen, Brian <Brian.Rosen@neustar.biz>wrote: > A problem that has been noted is PBXs and other services that implement > Call Forward and Follow-me by spoofing From to be the original caller when > they originate a call from the PBX to the ultimate destination. They do > this so that the called party sees the original caller when they get the > call. > > If we outlaw spoofing, these services wouldn't be able to do that. They > would have to use History or other headers to pass the original calling > party number. > > I believe that we can't continue to allow this kind of spoofing. There > are other headers which are appropriate for use. > > One of the arguments given is that in older systems such as POTS or 2G/3G, > there is no way to get caller ID to show data from the other headers. I > think we have to accept such limitations. Newer systems would not have > that problem of course. > > While it may be unfortunate that something like forward or follow-me > doesn't work as well as it did, I think that it's the right tradeoff. > > Please note that there are another class of calling party number spoofing > circumstances we CAN do something about. Suppose a doctor wants to place a > call on her mobile that appears to come from her office number. In that > case the doctor can authorize the service that arranges that call. They > can get the cert for the office number and authorize the service to place > calls with that number by giving them a cert for that authorization. This > also works for, as an example, a call center placing calls for an > enterprise. > > The difference is, of course, that the "spoofed" number is a number > delegated to the entity spoofing, rather than the forward/follow me case > where the spoofed number is the calling party and the entity spoofing is > authorized by the called party. > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > stir mailing list > stir@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/stir >
- Re: [stir] Call Forward/Follow-me Alan Johnston
- [stir] Call Forward/Follow-me Rosen, Brian
- Re: [stir] Call Forward/Follow-me Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [stir] Call Forward/Follow-me Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [stir] Call Forward/Follow-me Bernard Aboba
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Henning Schulzrinne
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Richard Barnes
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Michael Hammer
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Richard Shockey
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Rosen, Brian
- Re: [stir] Call Forward/Follow-me Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Michael Hammer
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Michael Hammer
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Rosen, Brian
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Rosen, Brian
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Dave Crocker
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Wilhelm Wimmreuter
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Rosen, Brian
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Wilhelm Wimmreuter
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Dave Crocker
- Re: [stir] Permitted spoofing Wilhelm Wimmreuter