Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09.txt
Saúl Ibarra Corretgé <saul@ag-projects.com> Wed, 14 September 2016 16:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09.txt
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> On 14 Sep 2016, at 16:25, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> wrote: > > On 9/14/16 9:24 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> A few additional notes... >> >> On 9/12/16 8:36 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >>> Thanks for the feedback. Comments inline. >>> >>> On 9/12/16 8:26 AM, Ben Campbell wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> A few comments inline. >>>> >>>> Thanks! >>>> >>>> Ben. >>>> >>>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 5:42, Saúl Ibarra Corretgé wrote: >>>> >>>> Review time! >>>> Page 10: " As described in Section 6 >>>> , the XMPP-to-SIP gateway also generates a >>>> presence notification addressed to the XMPP user: >>>> “ >>>> Should we say “if the NOTIFY contains a body” or is it obvious >>>> enough? It’s possible the SIP user is offline, but the XMPP is user >>>> is already authorised, so the NOTIFY will contain >>>> Subscription-State: active, but no body. >>>> >>>> It's probably worth adding an example of how the the gateway might >>>> interpret an empty body. I assume that if this is the first NOTIFY in >>>> the dialog (notification session), the gateway would interpret that as >>>> unknown or possibly "closed". If previous NOTIFYs have in the same >>>> notification session, it should probably mean "no change". >>> >>> Good idea, will do. >> >> As described in Section 6, if this first NOTIFY in the notification >> session contains a body then the XMPP-to-SIP gateway also generates a >> presence notification addressed to the XMPP user (if the NOTIFY does >> not contain a body then the gateway would interpret it as unknown or >> "closed"): >> >>>> Page 11: "As can be seen, because SIMPLE does not >>>> have a construct that enables a contact to cancel her presence >>>> authorization,” >>>> There is: remove the user from the corresponding XCAP rule. Next >>>> time presence is requested, it will be denied. (the SUBSCRIBE dialog >>>> still needs to be terminated though). >>>> >>>> The text is about the subscriber, not the presentity. So if Juliet >>>> subscribes to Romeo's presence, Romeo can change the authorization rule >>>> (via xcap or otherwise). But /Juliet/ cannot. >>>> >>>> I suppose "her authorization" can be a bit ambiguous. (If Romeo >>>> authorizes Juliet, whose authorization is it?) >>> >>> I was tempted to add "outbound" or "inbound" in all cases to make this >>> crystal clear... >> >> Changed to "cancel her outbound presence authorization" >> >> <snip/> >> >>>> Page 27: " As described in [RFC3856 >>>> ], this cancels any notification dialog but >>>> causes a NOTIFY to be sent to the subscriber, just as a presence >>>> probe does (the transformation rules for presence notifications have >>>> been previously described in >>>> Section 6.2 of this document).” >>>> A probe would be implemented as a new SUBSCRIBE dialog with expires >>>> 0, which does’t cancel all other dialogs. So while the mechanism is >>>> the same, using a *new* SUBSCRIBE request with Expires: 0 would just >>>> be a probe, not a cancellation. >>> >>> I will look into this. What you say sounds plausible but I'd like to >>> double-check it against my reading of RFC 3856. >> >> Yes, that looks right. I would change things as follows (note the new >> Call-ID, too): >> >> A SIP-to-XMPP gateway would transform the presence probe into its SIP >> equivalent, which is a SUBSCRIBE request with an Expires header value >> of zero in a new dialog: >> >> Example 23: SIP Transformation of XMPP Presence Probe >> >> | SUBSCRIBE sip:romeo@example.net SIP/2.0 >> | Via: SIP/2.0/TCP x2s.example.com;branch=z9hG4bKna998sk >> | From: <sip:juliet@example.com>;tag=j89d >> | Call-ID: 2398B737-566F-4CBB-A21A-1F8EEF7AF423 >> | Event: presence >> | Max-Forwards: 70 >> | CSeq: 1 SUBSCRIBE >> | Contact: <sip:juliet@example.com>;gr=yn0cl4bnw0yr3vym >> | Accept: application/pidf+xml >> | Expires: 0 >> | Content-Length: 0 >> >> As described in [RFC3856], this causes a NOTIFY to be sent to the >> subscriber, just as a presence probe does (the transformation rules >> for presence notifications have been previously described in >> Section 6.2 of this document). >> >>>> General note: the examples with "<show >>>> xmlns='jabber:client'>away</show>” lack the XML namespace >>>> declaration for “jabber”. >>> >>> Another good catch. >> >> Actually, 'jabber' is not a prefix here and the namespace name is indeed >> "jabber:client" - this was defined in the very early days of XML >> namespaces and we Jabberites didn't fully understand what a namespace >> name was supposed to look like. :( >> >> If that all looks good, I will publish a revised I-D soon. > > A diff is here: > > https://github.com/stpeter/sip-xmpp/commit/a3ded08cbf1cc527f3f648813b3ecc46d5039094#diff-7f5e67ec097d24a4490853a1770f411b > LGTM. No objections from me! -- Saúl Ibarra Corretgé AG Projects
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- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé