Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09.txt
Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Wed, 14 September 2016 15:49 UTC
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On 9/14/16 9:24 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > A few additional notes... > > On 9/12/16 8:36 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> Thanks for the feedback. Comments inline. >> >> On 9/12/16 8:26 AM, Ben Campbell wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> A few comments inline. >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> Ben. >>> >>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 5:42, Saúl Ibarra Corretgé wrote: >>> >>> Review time! >>> Page 10: " As described in Section 6 >>> , the XMPP-to-SIP gateway also generates a >>> presence notification addressed to the XMPP user: >>> “ >>> Should we say “if the NOTIFY contains a body” or is it obvious >>> enough? It’s possible the SIP user is offline, but the XMPP is user >>> is already authorised, so the NOTIFY will contain >>> Subscription-State: active, but no body. >>> >>> It's probably worth adding an example of how the the gateway might >>> interpret an empty body. I assume that if this is the first NOTIFY in >>> the dialog (notification session), the gateway would interpret that as >>> unknown or possibly "closed". If previous NOTIFYs have in the same >>> notification session, it should probably mean "no change". >> >> Good idea, will do. > > As described in Section 6, if this first NOTIFY in the notification > session contains a body then the XMPP-to-SIP gateway also generates a > presence notification addressed to the XMPP user (if the NOTIFY does > not contain a body then the gateway would interpret it as unknown or > "closed"): > >>> Page 11: "As can be seen, because SIMPLE does not >>> have a construct that enables a contact to cancel her presence >>> authorization,” >>> There is: remove the user from the corresponding XCAP rule. Next >>> time presence is requested, it will be denied. (the SUBSCRIBE dialog >>> still needs to be terminated though). >>> >>> The text is about the subscriber, not the presentity. So if Juliet >>> subscribes to Romeo's presence, Romeo can change the authorization rule >>> (via xcap or otherwise). But /Juliet/ cannot. >>> >>> I suppose "her authorization" can be a bit ambiguous. (If Romeo >>> authorizes Juliet, whose authorization is it?) >> >> I was tempted to add "outbound" or "inbound" in all cases to make this >> crystal clear... > > Changed to "cancel her outbound presence authorization" > > <snip/> > >>> Page 27: " As described in [RFC3856 >>> ], this cancels any notification dialog but >>> causes a NOTIFY to be sent to the subscriber, just as a presence >>> probe does (the transformation rules for presence notifications have >>> been previously described in >>> Section 6.2 of this document).” >>> A probe would be implemented as a new SUBSCRIBE dialog with expires >>> 0, which does’t cancel all other dialogs. So while the mechanism is >>> the same, using a *new* SUBSCRIBE request with Expires: 0 would just >>> be a probe, not a cancellation. >> >> I will look into this. What you say sounds plausible but I'd like to >> double-check it against my reading of RFC 3856. > > Yes, that looks right. I would change things as follows (note the new > Call-ID, too): > > A SIP-to-XMPP gateway would transform the presence probe into its SIP > equivalent, which is a SUBSCRIBE request with an Expires header value > of zero in a new dialog: > > Example 23: SIP Transformation of XMPP Presence Probe > > | SUBSCRIBE sip:romeo@example.net SIP/2.0 > | Via: SIP/2.0/TCP x2s.example.com;branch=z9hG4bKna998sk > | From: <sip:juliet@example.com>;tag=j89d > | Call-ID: 2398B737-566F-4CBB-A21A-1F8EEF7AF423 > | Event: presence > | Max-Forwards: 70 > | CSeq: 1 SUBSCRIBE > | Contact: <sip:juliet@example.com>;gr=yn0cl4bnw0yr3vym > | Accept: application/pidf+xml > | Expires: 0 > | Content-Length: 0 > > As described in [RFC3856], this causes a NOTIFY to be sent to the > subscriber, just as a presence probe does (the transformation rules > for presence notifications have been previously described in > Section 6.2 of this document). > >>> General note: the examples with "<show >>> xmlns='jabber:client'>away</show>” lack the XML namespace >>> declaration for “jabber”. >> >> Another good catch. > > Actually, 'jabber' is not a prefix here and the namespace name is indeed > "jabber:client" - this was defined in the very early days of XML > namespaces and we Jabberites didn't fully understand what a namespace > name was supposed to look like. :( > > If that all looks good, I will publish a revised I-D soon. A diff is here: https://github.com/stpeter/sip-xmpp/commit/a3ded08cbf1cc527f3f648813b3ecc46d5039094#diff-7f5e67ec097d24a4490853a1770f411b Peter
- [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09.txt internet-drafts
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Peter Saint-Andre
- Re: [Stox] I-D Action: draft-ietf-stox-7248bis-09… Saúl Ibarra Corretgé