Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tcpm-rto-consider-14
Gorry Fairhurst <gorry@erg.abdn.ac.uk> Fri, 19 June 2020 15:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tcpm-rto-consider-14
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One minor nit on the new text, the term "controlled environment" is used elsewhere in the RFC series in transport-related documents to describe what you name "constrained environment". Gorry On 19/06/2020 16:02, Mark Allman wrote: > I just posted a new version of rto-consider (-16). The document, > diffs, etc. can be found here: > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tcpm-rto-consider/ > > I fixed a few nits that had been pointed out throughout the > document. > > The main work in this rev is in the first two paragraphs of the > intro. I honed these based on the discussion with Stewart and > Gorry. Well, "honed" might ultimately look like "rewrote" even if > that wasn't the process or exactly my intention. :) I tried to pull > some of the notions from later in the document up here to the front > of the document, as requested. In particular, I brought forward the > notion of this document as a default and not as a one-size-fits-all. > I hope this addresses the concerns to a large extent. > > I also want to make a meta point here, which is clearly about this > document, but also I think much more widely applicable. I continue > to believe that the Internet has grown to what it is in no small > part because at many crucial points we chose generality over > optimality. I do not believe we should shun generality---either in > terms of protocol development or the lessons we have learned. That > doesn't mean we cannot acknowledge places where more pointed > solutions may be appropriate. It doesn't mean we can't accommodate > different and non-general approaches in things like guidelines and > requirements. But, I think it'd be a pity if we couldn't write > general documents because there are cases where they will be > suboptimal or not applicable. There are always such cases. And, if > that is the gate, we're going to design a network we won't much care > for, I think. IMHO. FWIW. > > allman
- [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-tcpm… Stewart Bryant via Datatracker
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of… Benjamin Kaduk
- Re: [tcpm] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [tcpm] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Martin Duke
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Martin Duke
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Stewart Bryant
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Mark Allman
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Martin Duke
- Re: [tcpm] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-… Yoshifumi Nishida