Re: [tcpm] poll for adopting draft-gont-tcp-security

Lloyd Wood <L.Wood@surrey.ac.uk> Sat, 04 July 2009 05:53 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tcpm] poll for adopting draft-gont-tcp-security
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On 4 Jul 2009, at 01:51, Joe Touch wrote:
> Lloyd Wood wrote:
>>
>> On 30 Jun 2009, at 19:32, Joe Touch wrote:
>>>
>>> I've repeatedly said why I don't want to proceed on this path. It  
>>> puts
>>> the WG in the position of repeating ourselves on issues we've  
>>> already
>>> decided. Specific example - ICMP in-window checking. We acknowledge
>>> systems do this,
>>
>> where is it acknowledged?
>
> In Gont's ID.

What, in the same individual ID you're spending so much energy  
suggesting
shouldn't even exist, and which you're dismissing as implementation  
advice
outside of the scope of the IETF and have otherwise been trying to  
prevent
being adopted as a WG draft?

How can this be the WG repeating itself on a decided issue, if the WG  
has not
yet acknowledged this in a WG document in the first place?

Obviously, it would be entirely unreasonable for someone to argue  
against
this document's adoption as a WG item while simultaneously using this  
same
document as an example of acknowledgement of decided WG issues not  
written
anywhere else, for that would be... well, hypocrisy.

L.

"Publishing recommendations without validating them isn't wasting  
time."?
DTN work: http://info.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Personal/L.Wood/saratoga/

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