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Re: [Terminology] Update to TERM charter text

Niels ten Oever <lists@digitaldissidents.org> Tue, 13 April 2021 14:16 UTC

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On 13-04-2021 16:03, Lloyd W wrote:
> rfc5727: 
> 
> Once a new effort has been defined in DISPATCH and there is working group consensus that it should go forward, if the new effort will take the form of a working group or BoF, then the ADs will present the proposed new effort charter to the IESG and IAB, in accordance with the usual chartering process
> 
> 
> A DISPATCH group does not get to have final say on a WG charter; the charter is produced by the chartering process.
> 

Sure - I never said any other thing. I was just surprised you wrote that the charter was not produced in a WG.

Best,

Niels


> Lloyd Wood
> lloyd.wood@yahoo.co.uk
> 
>> On 13 Apr 2021, at 23:49, Niels ten Oever <lists@digitaldissidents.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 13-04-2021 12:54, Lloyd W wrote:
>>> this charter isn't the product of a working group.
>>
>> I must have hallucinated this thread then:
>>
>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/gendispatch/?gbt=1&index=Zm8vtslsgMO-PbIEujvtZodVJBg
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Niels
>>
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