Re: [therightkey] [cabfpub] Updated Certificate Transparency + Extended Validation plan

Wayne Thayer <wthayer@godaddy.com> Wed, 05 February 2014 02:32 UTC

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From: Wayne Thayer <wthayer@godaddy.com>
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Hi Wayne,

Considering we already do not indicate EV on Android, nor have we ever, I don't think this perceived loss of functionality is as significant as you may believe.

Further, considering the very real and distinct performance characteristics of mobile (radio warmups, RTTs, initcwnds), the idea of fetching OCSP, or, worse, CRLs - especially when some CAs have CRLs that are quite large (20+ MB) - in order to assure the EV display is... non-ideal. So again, the EV indicator on mobile is not as strong or as present as it may be on desktop platforms.

In that case, what does this statement mean?


Chrome for mobile platforms will cease to show EV indicators for certificates that are not CT qualified according to the criteria below.



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Subject: [therightkey] Updated Certificate Transparency + Extended
Validation plan

Enclosed, our revised plan.

Comments welcome.

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