Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitives) Re: sect571r1
Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com> Thu, 16 July 2015 01:49 UTC
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From: Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitives) Re: sect571r1
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On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Rene Struik <rstruik.ext@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear colleagues: > > It seems prudent to keep some diversity of the gene pool and not only have > curves defined over prime curves. Similarly, one should perhaps have some > diversity of gene pool criteria within the set of recommend curves and not > only include special primes. Should some problem with a particular subclass > show up over time, one then at least has other classes available. I just responded to Dan Brown with this, but it applies here as well: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Tony Arcieri <bascule@gmail.com> Date: Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [TLS] sect571r1 To: Dan Brown <dbrown@certicom.com> Cc: Martin Rex <mrex@sap.com>, "<tls@ietf.org>" <tls@ietf.org> On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Dan Brown <dbrown@certicom.com> wrote: > Even so, there's an argument from Koblitz and Menezes that special curves > (e.g. binary curves) may survive some wider collapse. I think it's a weak > argument, but for those for whom supporting more curves is easy, it could > justify supporting a diversity of curves. Others are pushing FFDHE in the event of some ECC disaster. I'm not really a fan of that either (all these things add attack surface in addition to being "backups"), but if we're going to keep a little used thing around in our pocket just in case of an ECC disaster, why do we need backup curves in addition to FFDHE? -- Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tony Arcieri
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- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Benjamin Beurdouche
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Deirdre Connolly
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tanja Lange
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dan Brown
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Rob Stradling
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Rob Stradling
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Brian Smith
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tony Arcieri
- [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitives) … Rene Struik
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dan Brown
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
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- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Johannes Merkle
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Sean Turner