Re: [TLS] sect571r1
mrex@sap.com (Martin Rex) Thu, 16 July 2015 00:21 UTC
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Tony Arcieri wrote: [ Charset UTF-8 unsupported, converting... ] > Dave Garrett <davemgarrett@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> It's the most used of the rarely used curves. > > > I think all "rarely used curves" should be removed from TLS. Specifically, > I think it would make sense for TLS to adopt a curve portfolio like this: > > - CFRG curves (RECOMMENDED): Curve25519, Ed448-Goldilocks > - NIST curves (SUPPORTED): P-256, P-384, P-521 P-256 and P-384 seem to be pretty important to some folks (those with a NIST/NSA Suite B checklist). I'm OK with P-521, but I would prefer to get rid of pretty much all _other_ NIST curves with unexplained parameters, including 571 Either the NIST curves with unexplained constants _are_ backdoored, then you get screwed no matter which one of them you use. Or the NIST curves are OK, then P-521 will be good enough. IMO. -Martin Microsoft SChannel seems to implent the 3 NIST curves (P-256, P-384, P-521), and MSIE 10 exhibits a curious behaviour on my Win7 machine: when only TLSv1.0 is enabled, then MSIE 10 sends a ClientHello with P-521 as the first curve in the named_curve extension. when TLSv1.2 is also enabled, then MSIE 10 sends a ClientHello with P-256 as the first curve in the named_curve extension.
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tony Arcieri
- [TLS] sect571r1 Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Benjamin Beurdouche
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Deirdre Connolly
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Adam Langley
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tanja Lange
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dan Brown
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Rob Stradling
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Rob Stradling
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Martin Thomson
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Brian Smith
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Martin Rex
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tony Arcieri
- [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitives) … Rene Struik
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dan Brown
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Jeffrey Walton
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Yoav Nir
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Salz, Rich
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Viktor Dukhovni
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Tony Arcieri
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Hubert Kario
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Johannes Merkle
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Dave Garrett
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: [TLS] (selection criteria for crypto primitiv… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [TLS] sect571r1 Sean Turner