Re: [TLS] Bakeoffs
Alyssa Rowan <akr@akr.io> Wed, 16 April 2014 22:53 UTC
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 On 16/04/2014 01:46, Trevor Perrin wrote: > Maybe this argues for Adam Langley's earlier suggestion (also > endorsed by a few others) that we focus on a TLS 1.3 that is a > "tidying up" of 1.2, and push the larger goals (e.g. redesigning > handshake for lower-latency or more encryption) to a TLS 2.0? On reflection, I think I may favour this approach, yes: • Keeping TLSv1.3 a cleaned-up v1.2 with better, faster, forward-secure baseline of fast, constant-time ECDHE and AEADs, legacy/broken lint removed, bugs fixed and downgrade protection, and getting that out fairly promptly; and, • Following that with a TLSv2.0 process in which we look at the far more radical and challenging changes: handshake improvements, ClientHello/SNI encryption, perhaps a complete redesign. If both are faster and higher-performing, that might help avoid delay in adoption. - -- /akr -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJTTwnWAAoJEOyEjtkWi2t6bmcP+gJk6W8wgrFY0l1I0sHYII+4 oTdjfeiIFzVl1nkXTksW2A8dsomfM2BE8MibHXXRJHXWLQ8dNuNM18TOPTG21YON nT3wmB1QwhiIzqscusTe9rv4Y18aSajR65zWXfuEf3+PtF36/y+9nSt9mgk2Njbi gmAC+CzJTC1omABNnQU3v+4HvTtD2onDzVQXtAvNeHtpwts0S8jF3LOvsOQCxhGw WofCMKWw1ImQcO4246isk9rIDXiBc0DhLK/1IBIxAK1HZV99HBl1xB9dRJRwp0In TjWANVx/cBNvbzdFAQ6s0LunNa4CV3kQNolWwEFF7Bw8BDw8yvxQBrCwjZ63MdjH b5rFJQLyOoJftZTV7HxWxxDOqV4inVyUQqZSsZwKSZX3Zv3fCUUuD1xRxNDDUeQx FVGgHgQFGxAQ2Aj9L1JOgRbI7PqFUfMFNgCMh4GZEN7MaYdvhDcXJd22vywglnIp SjiroTK/hp3CnE22mED5r6NfyHppExfB5YMkh9N3Tfb5kHPuz63twLedYz8GC83w QG8EirKEyRmYGyiKcmS0LD98qYVJUUKapW5R8J89CtPv6vNqYd84QOiqav7OcvNl JxWeAyU1LvKFLvZLiVJAerE9DbIsXLz2sub/0Id0gJgSS+AnfBp3V7e/SlQhrPn+ LI1gQi5OxXY9nFiktoyz =ll+R -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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