Re: [TLS] Bakeoffs
"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Tue, 15 April 2014 20:28 UTC
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>TLS doesn’t work. Well, that’s a bit of an exaggeration. Kinda like when I would say to the kids “I’ve told you a million times not to…” I’m opposed to a bakeoff. It doesn’t seem like a “standard” bakeoff, in which we bring existing implementations of mostly-done specs. Others have commented on the history. This seems more like a spec bake-off, which isn’t really a bake-off but more of a competition. How does that get better code out there? Rough consensus and running code is the phrase, and I don’t see a competition to create TLS2 as a way to get a “better” TLS in the hands of consumers during 2014. And, if we got rid of the SNI encryption :) the number of changes being considered is pretty small in both number and scope. /r$ -- Principal Security Engineer Akamai Technology Cambridge, MA
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