[TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT
S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@elandsys.com> Sun, 26 April 2026 00:29 UTC
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Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2026 17:26:36 -0700
To: Muhammad Usama Sardar <muhammad_usama.sardar@tu-dresden.de>, tls@ietf.org
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Subject: [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT
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Hi Usama, At 04:33 PM 25-04-2026, Muhammad Usama Sardar wrote: >I am not familiar with this term. I did a quick search but I don't >find in IETF context. Here's an example of a review: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/last-call/Cuv72NQhs_04FlL6F7NL79gX5qc/ >More importantly, could you please elaborate your rationale behind >distinguishing 'design team' or 'review group' for the purposes of >my proposal? Unless I am missing some subtlety, it seems completely >orthogonal to my proposal. So I will leave this for some senior for guidance. I looked for what might be a closer fit based on what I read in RFC 2418. >Please see [3], which has links to reports, e.g., see thorough >report [4] by Britta Hale for 8773bis. In my proposal, the effort of >FATT will be distributed over time, and Verifier will be able to do >most of the effort under their guidance and FATT will be able to >focus on review. Thanks for the URL. >I may be misunderstanding your point here. I believe everybody -- >and not just Verifier -- in the IETF is a volunteer. > >I cannot speak for other Verifiers. I can speak only for myself. I >am willing to do the job for free because this is my job description >and I am funded by the German Research Foundation ("Deutsche >Forschungsgemeinschaft"). I have fully transparently declared it in >Acknowledgment section of my draft [6]. The point is that I keep in mind that the reviewer is a volunteer. >We may be talking past each other. I believe any reasonable >comparison of my proposal Yes (to the first sentence). > should be with the current process. Could you please clarify why > this is an additional risk in my proposal compared to the current process? It's not about risk. It's about finding common ground. Regards, S. Moonesamy
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- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: FATT process for … Bas Westerbaan
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: FATT process for … Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: FATT process for … Bas Westerbaan
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: FATT process for … Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: FATT process for … David Benjamin
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: FATT process for … Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Sean Turner
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Filippo Valsorda
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT David Benjamin
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Eric Rescorla
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Felix Linker
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Nadim Kobeissi
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Salz, Rich
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT S Moonesamy
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT S Moonesamy
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT S Moonesamy
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT S Moonesamy
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Rob Sayre
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT S Moonesamy
- [TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT Muhammad Usama Sardar