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[TLS] Re: FATT Process Updates: Contacting FATT

Nadim Kobeissi <nadim@symbolic.software> Tue, 28 April 2026 12:45 UTC

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But we’re not discussing security here! We’re discussing procedural norms and practices when it comes to how a community effort is run.

This is about how the WG interacts with FATT.

I care about TLS and about how formal methods are used to assess something, and I care even more about the trustworthiness of public institutions that aim to secure the Internet.

So yes, I think transparency is obviously something we should all be championing.

Nadim Kobeissi
Symbolic Software • https://symbolic.software

> On 28 Apr 2026, at 2:37 PM, Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com> wrote:
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>  
> This is genuinely confusing. Are you pushing for *less* transparency? I don’t get it.
> 
> Security is all about trade-offs.
> 
> I am not pushing for “less” transparency than we have now. I am okay with the current transparency/engagement trade-off for now.  I hope it will change later on.
>

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