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Re: [Tools-discuss] [Emo-dir] Tools info on the main IETF web site

Joey Salazar <joeygsal@gmail.com> Tue, 03 August 2021 18:25 UTC

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From: Joey Salazar <joeygsal@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2021 12:25:49 -0600
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To: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
Cc: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org>, tools-discuss@ietf.org, emo-dir@ietf.org
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On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 4:59 PM Brian E Carpenter wrote:

> On 02-Aug-21 10:29, Michael Richardson wrote:
> >
> > Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> wrote:
> >     > The outline plan that a bunch of us are putting together for
> community
> >     > consultation is for a new wiki to be added at authors.ietf.org
> >     > <http://authors.ietf.org/> that
> >
> > I like it.
>
Me too, very looking forward to collaborating on that.


> >
> >     > It would be useful to hear if this is on the right lines before the
> >     > proposal is fully fleshed out?
> >
> > I think so.
>
I think the 'mix of 'official' and community content' is a great idea as it
gives flexibility on approaching topics like "working as part of a team"
and "how to deal with dissent/disagreement" that new authors might find
challenging. Having the authors guidance centralized is a very good step
imo.

I agree, for experienced users. My immediate concern is helping an
> absolute beginner, and they need something kinder and gentler such
> as an up to date tutorial. But I'm sure EMO is thinking about this.
>
Indeed emodir is thinking along those lines. We'll aim to complement what
the community consultation focuses on. I agree guidance for beginners and
first-time would-be-authors is very much needed.


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Joey Salazar
IETF emodir
Co-coordinator

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