Re: [Tools-discuss] [Emo-dir] Tools info on the main IETF web site

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sun, 01 August 2021 22:59 UTC

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From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] [Emo-dir] Tools info on the main IETF web site
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On 02-Aug-21 10:29, Michael Richardson wrote:
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> Jay Daley <jay@ietf.org> wrote:
>     > The outline plan that a bunch of us are putting together for community
>     > consultation is for a new wiki to be added at authors.ietf.org
>     > <http://authors.ietf.org/> that
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> I like it.
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>     > It would be useful to hear if this is on the right lines before the
>     > proposal is fully fleshed out?
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> I think so.

I agree, for experienced users. My immediate concern is helping an
absolute beginner, and they need something kinder and gentler such
as an up to date tutorial. But I'm sure EMO is thinking about this.

   Brian

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