Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML?
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Sun, 17 March 2024 17:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML?
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--On Sunday, March 17, 2024 13:09 +0100 Julian Reschke <julian.reschke=40gmx.de@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > Am 16.03.2024 um 21:50 schrieb Eric Rescorla: >> ... >> I don't much care about the comments, but I would observe >> that a consequence of having the XML kept private like this >> is to make it more difficult for others to work on the >> documents, either by submitting diffs to the text or by >> forking them and making their own documents. Again focusing on IETF Stream standards track documents, "fork and make their own" is an excellent way to create confusion in a WG (or other discussion) about which document is being discussed and how it is different from the other(s). > ...or understanding why something changed between revisions. Something better accomplished, IMO, by an explicit change log that identifies and, as needed, explains substantive changes. We've never required those on an IETF-wide basis (although ADs occasionally have done so with "their" WGs), but it has become the custom in many WGs. By contrast, suppose an author makes a change in the XML, does not provide a change log, and either does not include a comment about the nature of the change or suppresses those comments before posting. In what way would access to the XML provide more information about changes, especially why they occurred, than, e.g., a diff on the text form. best, john
- [Tools-discuss] I-D statistics Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] I-D statistics Martin Thomson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] I-D statistics Andrew G. Malis
- Re: [Tools-discuss] I-D statistics Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] I-D statistics John C Klensin
- Re: [Tools-discuss] I-D statistics Paul Hoffman
- Re: [Tools-discuss] I-D statistics Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] I-D statistics Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… John C Klensin
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? Jean Mahoney
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Jay Daley
- Re: [Tools-discuss] I-D statistics Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… John C Klensin
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Martin Thomson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… John C Klensin
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? (w… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? John C Klensin
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? Julian Reschke
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? John C Klensin
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Why post text and not XML? Eric Rescorla