IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [Tools-discuss] I-D statistics

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 16 March 2024 04:13 UTC

Return-Path: <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0181C14F68E for <tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:13:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.196
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.196 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.091, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, URIBL_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([50.223.129.194]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2APGV8qdAzNH for <tools-discuss@ietfa.amsl.com>; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:13:46 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-pj1-x1034.google.com (mail-pj1-x1034.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1034]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 196AAC14F60E for <tools-discuss@ietf.org>; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:13:46 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-pj1-x1034.google.com with SMTP id 98e67ed59e1d1-29f1686ff12so264912a91.1 for <tools-discuss@ietf.org>; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:13:46 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1710562425; x=1711167225; darn=ietf.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=e37SFnHAAO/YF/uHB0ITvYZCgBqjPQo9vIog+cripLQ=; b=VkNkaDxEF291lqYPLN9RXTvcYU5i/EX8+1VttAlCDimLGcqxSW8MweGc00ZQxt7if9 2kQnu8+IkUfeTPHqXbssuAK4Ketu2lhz55LjZIkSzICwNgyyOo6+p6syQJaTpQoRT/2M IsmTzpLMMeLzQ7yiRDbQGqmSKXSxg4Osf/qnTCz9VMPT64dbvbxtMUE1cSAoH9krJ3Yr NU9fjh9yTlwKNHl4pNLeUjJrQ5IcO3ry4piGSS+8fN9gEUkctSTSBjH0OZv0arD64xwU BW+hmhu0yfQon0ihhV9sxalEhv5ABTpoaRgmr//lXkBjtJPRSQ1nK2Ccao/aRxugXWfo MbkA==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1710562425; x=1711167225; h=content-transfer-encoding:in-reply-to:from:references:to :content-language:subject:user-agent:mime-version:date:message-id :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=e37SFnHAAO/YF/uHB0ITvYZCgBqjPQo9vIog+cripLQ=; b=YREaD4YNxAiy8i1DANuCRN0jRSin4eVSYYp+X19gE2AjyAb1i6GDtdU4wjHFt4ylPy T0VEaLL6mx0+ocvXquNZmGv54PRCH6m3xzpbfb7EbeNVEXJstQg3y4EaTRn1np2lGEfr Y0Xm5u/aRmzMetak+Qw0CIZWhyO+1J/6Jee+//qMAqnvvZxhluN5mw5oI6L/9kqdVOuo OTtCSrJnJcido1tUX4/SfTlwh8cpX2gLstyBuPR5cLVzelXXUEALqCuEKLHaX+9+LxpD AXrk6mhbHpb0e1uPXihK7goe23iAgTO9l0IcsO/MjVqbEopwV6J3uNTCJcOraMteAvk2 EN4A==
X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCVDVHvKkfQZB0AT/KkDnJYgR/VP29bWcPgrF7LlbVMhTcN/yIzXc41WGEMCRiXHkooliqj7vW2dopDprKBeU+/OLJ703HDR
X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzejfoGxAOaGDPLiqrqnGS1+VaU0/FkFkwnPEwkntBm3JKScMDR CmWudviOPc9/l/dEiAwg2sKafc+EqLtVUK9llSXkREelvUlt1X/qQj7cEleP
X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF/Fe7c9gc8/RfXdrgSswuVnunl0zwckOazxR+LqJB1MsUg0Mnm9vx2JA8lItBMnisGoc+tBQ==
X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:5648:b0:1a1:4d18:66be with SMTP id is8-20020a056a20564800b001a14d1866bemr5993787pzc.52.1710562425144; Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:13:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from ?IPV6:2404:4400:541d:a600:44b7:2c2e:2bc6:8707? ([2404:4400:541d:a600:44b7:2c2e:2bc6:8707]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id st6-20020a17090b1fc600b0029bbdc920besm3665260pjb.44.2024.03.15.21.13.43 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 15 Mar 2024 21:13:44 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <effb521c-1e20-cff8-acd3-17212a6b3fb9@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 17:13:40 +1300
MIME-Version: 1.0
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.10.0
Content-Language: en-US
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, tools-discuss <tools-discuss@ietf.org>
References: <1952067F-6467-4BEC-9CA5-BB8B16FA662B@tzi.org> <14807.1709682543@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <14807.1709682543@obiwan.sandelman.ca>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; format="flowed"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tools-discuss/YuW61D0CsGmE1O9RTo6eNDDM1gs>
Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] I-D statistics
X-BeenThere: tools-discuss@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.39
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF Tools Discussion <tools-discuss.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/tools-discuss>, <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/tools-discuss/>
List-Post: <mailto:tools-discuss@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss>, <mailto:tools-discuss-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2024 04:13:49 -0000

On 06-Mar-24 12:49, Michael Richardson wrote:
...
> I'm also curious why so many people submit via UI rather than API, given MT's
> makefiles, and a few other automation choices including github actions.

Meant to answer that a few days ago: because not everybody uses github and
Martin's makefiles. I think author-tools.ietf.org is pretty good now for
starting from kramdown, but it does mean you have to generate the XML file
and use the UI for submission.

More confusingly, there are still a few current drafts submitted as txt only.
No XML at all. I wonder why we still allow that, and what tools people
are using. Doesn't this create busywork if the document progresses?

    Brian

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email