Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender)

[Michael Richardson <[e-mail]>]

John Levine <[e-mail]> wrote:
    > In article <[e-mail]> you write:
    >> -=-=-=-=-=-
    >>
    >> This went to mail=2Bietf=[e-mail], and I thought
    >> that was all that is needed to get mail out.

    >>> to: SPF fail - not authorized. Please see
    >>> http://www.openspf.net/Why?s=mfrom;id=[e-mail];ip=4.31.198.44;r=<UNKNOWN>

    > Your message was relayed through the IETF's mail server and your SPF
    > -all tells him to reject relayed mail.  His mail system is doing
    > exactly what you've asked it to do.

    > If you believe that the IETF should do something else to forwarded mail
    > it would be helpful if you could point to relevant RFCs. Or, of course,
    > you could fix your SPF record.

Well, I believe that the IETF should stop with the dmarc.ietf.org, and
we should simply do, as you said, what the sender's SPF and DMARC records
say, and simply drop their email rather than allow it through mailman.

They didn't want it relayed, we shouldn't relay it. Period.

If we are going to do this rewriting, then we had better get it right, and
that means rewriting it both ways.

{I'm been told that ARC solves all of this, but that was like 8 years ago,
and we still don't have much.  I guess we have a document, but I haven't seen
it deployed yet.  Is it?}

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