Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender)
Henrik Levkowetz <henrik@levkowetz.com> Fri, 11 December 2020 19:12 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender)
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On 2020-12-11 20:10, Michael Richardson wrote: > > John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote: > > In article <93628091-1A48-4865-A100-F64DE5981ECF@tzi.org> you write: > >> -=-=-=-=-=- > >> > >> This went to mail=2Bietf=40gundogan.net@dmarc.ietf.org, and I thought > >> that was all that is needed to get mail out. > > >>> to: SPF fail - not authorized. Please see > >>> http://www.openspf.net/Why?s=mfrom;id=cabo@tzi.org;ip=4.31.198.44;r=<UNKNOWN> > > > Your message was relayed through the IETF's mail server and your SPF > > -all tells him to reject relayed mail. His mail system is doing > > exactly what you've asked it to do. > > > If you believe that the IETF should do something else to forwarded mail > > it would be helpful if you could point to relevant RFCs. Or, of course, > > you could fix your SPF record. > > Well, I believe that the IETF should stop with the dmarc.ietf.org, and > we should simply do, as you said, what the sender's SPF and DMARC records > say, and simply drop their email rather than allow it through mailman. > > They didn't want it relayed, we shouldn't relay it. Period. > > If we are going to do this rewriting, then we had better get it right, and > that means rewriting it both ways. We are rewriting it both ways. This was not a bug in our setup. Henrik > {I'm been told that ARC solves all of this, but that was like 8 years ago, > and we still don't have much. I guess we have a document, but I haven't seen > it deployed yet. Is it?} > > -- > ] Never tell me the odds! | ipv6 mesh networks [ > ] Michael Richardson, Sandelman Software Works | IoT architect [ > ] mcr@sandelman.ca http://www.sandelman.ca/ | ruby on rails [ > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Tools-discuss mailing list > Tools-discuss@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tools-discuss > > Please report datatracker.ietf.org and mailarchive.ietf.org > bugs at http://tools.ietf.org/tools/ietfdb > or send email to datatracker-project@ietf.org > > Please report tools.ietf.org bugs at > http://tools.ietf.org/tools/issues > or send email to webmaster@tools.ietf.org >
- [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd: Und… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… Glen
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… Lars Eggert
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… Glen
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… Michael Richardson
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… Glen
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… John Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… John Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… John R Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… Salz, Rich
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… John R Levine
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… Tom Pusateri
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… Cenk Gündoğan
- Re: [Tools-discuss] Can't send mail to Cenk (Fwd:… John Levine