Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009

[Brian Weis <[e-mail]>]

I also reviewed it in June, had questions, and was satisfied with the  
responses (last message sent to the list 6/4/09). I believe it's ready  
for WGLC.

Brian

On Nov 5, 2009, at 11:50 AM, ken carlberg wrote:

> I reviewed the document back in June, and was satisfied with the  
> exchange and changes made to the last draft.  I had actually assumed  
> it was ready for WGLC a while back.  So if you are in need of a  
> voice to say, "go ahead"....well, go ahead :-)
>
> -ken
>
>
> On Nov 5, 2009, at 2:39 PM, James M. Polk wrote:
>
>> Francois
>>
>> This is directly from the meeting minutes:
>>
>> "The WG will now take this to LC. People who have commented prior to
>> WGLC please quickly re-read and confirm this is ready for  
>> publication."
>>
>> Which is close - but not exactly how I remember things.  I remember  
>> asking the room for folks to ping the list and say whether this ID  
>> ready for WGLC. No one on the list has commented since Stockholm  
>> about this ID (up or down) -- so we chairs have hesitated issuing  
>> the WGLC.
>>
>> Perhaps I should have pushed the WG more directly to the list. I  
>> apologize for that.
>>
>> James
>>
>> At 12:55 PM 11/5/2009, Francois Le Faucheur wrote:
>>> Hello Gorry, James,
>>>
>>> Any comments on why this document is not going for Last Call as
>>> (apparently) agreed 4 months ago?
>>>
>>> Francois
>>>
>>> On 26 Oct 2009, at 19:14, Francois Le Faucheur wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gorry, James,
>>>>
>>>> Any comments on why this document is not going for Last Call as
>>>> (apparently) agreed 3.5 months ago?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Francois
>>>>
>>>> On 16 Oct 2009, at 15:04, Francois Le Faucheur wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gorry, James,
>>>>>
>>>>> Independently of getting the Status Report corrected, my
>>>>> understanding is that draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying
>>>>> has been declared ready to go to WGLC 3 months ago as per the
>>>>> Stockholm meeting minutes. Could you please:
>>>>>       (i) either issue the Last Call
>>>>>       (ii) or let us know if there are outstanding thing sin the  
>>>>> way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Francois
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 Oct 2009, at 14:43, Michael Behringer (mbehring) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Gorry,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying-05 (as INFO)
>>>>>> Milestone: Nov 2009
>>>>>> - Submit 'Applicability of Keying Methods for RSVP Security' to  
>>>>>> IESG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ACTION: Reviews Needed to say ready for WGLC
>>>>>> Notes: Francois believes this is ready for WGLC.
>>>>>> Ran Adkinson no longer has any objection to this.
>>>>>> JP will shepherd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe this status not to be correct. Please refer to
>>>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/tsvwg/minutes?item=minutes75.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "          The WG will now take this to LC. People who have
>>>>>> commented prior to WGLC
>>>>>>       please quickly re-read and confirm this is ready for
>>>>>> publication.
>>>>>> "
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My understanding from the last meeting was that:
>>>>>> - the chairs would issue a WGLC (quite explicitly in the notes)
>>>>>> - people who have commented before to quickly confirm that their
>>>>>> concerns
>>>>>> have been addressed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please also refer to my mail to the list from 8 Sep
>>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tsvwg/current/msg09448.html
>>>>>> Where I asked whether there are any open issues, and I was not
>>>>>> told about any.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So in my understanding the document should be in the section
>>>>>> ================ WG Chair ACTION NEEDED ================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Could you please confirm this or correct my statements above?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: [e-mail] on behalf of Gorry Fairhurst
>>>>>> Sent: Thu 08-Oct-09 15:46
>>>>>> To: tsvwg WG
>>>>>> Cc: tsvwg chair
>>>>>> Subject: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've summarised the list of drafts I know about in TSVWG and  
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> current state. Please do take time to read this. If there are
>>>>>> omissions
>>>>>> or corrections, do let me know and I'll fix them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - If you are an author please do update your document before the
>>>>>> deadline for the next IETF (not so many weeks from now!!) I see  
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> document is even expired with pending comments!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - If you have comments on these drafts, please let us know. If we
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> going to things completed by the milestones, we'll need people to
>>>>>> comment on the documents and new revisions to be published.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gorry & James
>>>>>> (as TSVWG Chairs)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ======== TSVWG STATUS 8th OCT 2009 ========
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ================ IESG Processing ================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-proxy-approaches-07 (as INFO)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notes: None.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-proxy-proto-09 (as PS)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notes: None.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ================ WG Chair ACTION NEEDED ================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-emergency-rsvp-12 (as PS)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Status:  In WGLC (Shepherd = Gorry Fairhurst)
>>>>>> ACTION: WG Review reports, and notes of usefulness are needed.
>>>>>> Notes: {WGLCTo end: 17th October 2009}
>>>>>> 8th Oct - currently no nodes of support or comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-port-randomization-04 (as BCP)
>>>>>> Milestone: Nov 2009
>>>>>> - Submit 'Port Randomization for Transport Protocols' to the IESG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Status: This ID is past WGLC. (Shepherd = James Polk)
>>>>>> ACTION: JP to close the LC discussions and provide write-up.
>>>>>> Notes: WGLC concluded April 15th
>>>>>> New revision posted 3rd July - awaiting response by James Polk.=
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ================ With WG ================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-admitted-realtime-dscp-05 (as PS)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Status: This ID is past WGLC. (Shepherd = Magnus Westerlund)
>>>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors.
>>>>>> Notes: JP to make final edits (based on Magnus' AD comments)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-strrst-00 (as PS)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying-05 (as INFO)
>>>>>> Milestone: Nov 2009
>>>>>> - Submit 'Applicability of Keying Methods for RSVP Security' to  
>>>>>> IESG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ACTION: Reviews Needed to say ready for WGLC
>>>>>> Notes: Francois believes this is ready for WGLC.
>>>>>> Ran Adkinson no longer has any objection to this.
>>>>>> JP will shepherd.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-02 (as BCP)
>>>>>> Milestone:  Dec 2009
>>>>>> -'IANA Procedures for the Transport Protocol Port Number Space'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors.
>>>>>> Notes:  GF will shepherd.
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctpsocket-19 (as INFO)
>>>>>> Milestone: Dec 2009
>>>>>> - 'Sockets API Extensions for SCTP' to IESG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors.
>>>>>> Notes: Lacks a good IANA section, and  security consideration.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-03 (as PS)
>>>>>> Milestone: Jan 2010
>>>>>> - 'Layered Encapsulation of Congestion Notification'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors (WG Comments welcome)
>>>>>> Notes: Substantial review of previous version.
>>>>>> GF and David Black to confirm if issues raised were answered.
>>>>>> New material needs review.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-dtls-for-sctp-01 (as PS)
>>>>>> Milestone: Dec 2009
>>>>>> - 'DTLS for SCTP'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ACTION: Reviewers needed.
>>>>>> Notes: Reviews needed to allow this to progress to LC.
>>>>>> Authors think this is about ready for WGLC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-byte-pkt-congest (as INFO)
>>>>>> Milestone:  Feb 2010
>>>>>> - Request publication of 'Byte and Packet Congestion  
>>>>>> Notification'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors (WG Comments welcome)
>>>>>> Notes: Comments received on rev 00, but no new revision.
>>>>>> Current version has expired Feb 2009.
>>>>>> Chairs need to know if author wishes to continue with a revised  
>>>>>> ID.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ================ Individual Drafts ================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> These drafts are ones that are being tracked, if you have a draft
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> you think is ready for WG comments please email the Chairs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>> * draft-tuexen-sctp-udp-encaps-02
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>>     AD help requested to know what with encapsulation drafts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-fairhurst-6man-tsvwg-udptt-02
>>>>>> - The UDP Tunnel Transport mode
>>>>>> Status: Individual Submission
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG and 6MAN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-tuexen-tsvwg-sctp-sack-immediately-02.txt
>>>>>> Status: Individual Submission
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-narayanan-tsvwg-rsvp-resource-sharing
>>>>>> Status: Individual Submission
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-lefaucheur-tsvwg-rsvp-multiple-preemption
>>>>>> Status: Individual Submission
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> draft-narayanan-tsvwg-rsvp-resource-sharing
>>>>>> Status: Individual Submission
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-adams-tsvwg-flow-signaling-identification-00
>>>>>> -  Flow State Aware signalling standardisation, and a proposal  
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> alerting nodes or end-systems on data related to a flow
>>>>>> Status: Individual Submission,  Not discussed by this group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notes: None.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>>
>>>>>> * draft-fairhurst-tsvwg-6man-udpzero-00
>>>>>> - IPv6 UDP Checksum Considerations
>>>>>> Status: Individual Submission,  Not discussed by this group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>> Linked to work in 6MAN, MBONED and LISP
>>>>>>
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