Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009

[Francois Le Faucheur <[e-mail]>]

James,

Considering that:
	* Ken Carlberg already explicitly confirmed on the list that he was  
satisfied with the changes back in June 09
	* Ran Atkinson already explicitly confirmed on the list that his  
comments had been addressed appropriately back in June 09 (http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tsvwg/current/msg09144.html 
)
	* Brian Weis already explicitly confirmed on the list that the  
proposed changes worked for him back on 5 June 09
	* Bob Briscoe also explicitly confirmed he did a complete review back  
in April and converged with Michael on resolution of the one  
outstanding item,
could we actually do the Last Call?

Thanks

Francois

On 5 Nov 2009, at 20:39, James M. Polk wrote:

> Francois
>
> This is directly from the meeting minutes:
>
> "The WG will now take this to LC. People who have commented prior to
> WGLC please quickly re-read and confirm this is ready for  
> publication."
>
> Which is close - but not exactly how I remember things.  I remember  
> asking the room for folks to ping the list and say whether this ID  
> ready for WGLC. No one on the list has commented since Stockholm  
> about this ID (up or down) -- so we chairs have hesitated issuing  
> the WGLC.
>
> Perhaps I should have pushed the WG more directly to the list. I  
> apologize for that.
>
> James
>
> At 12:55 PM 11/5/2009, Francois Le Faucheur wrote:
>> Hello Gorry, James,
>>
>> Any comments on why this document is not going for Last Call as
>> (apparently) agreed 4 months ago?
>>
>> Francois
>>
>> On 26 Oct 2009, at 19:14, Francois Le Faucheur wrote:
>>
>>> Gorry, James,
>>>
>>> Any comments on why this document is not going for Last Call as
>>> (apparently) agreed 3.5 months ago?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Francois
>>>
>>> On 16 Oct 2009, at 15:04, Francois Le Faucheur wrote:
>>>
>>>> Gorry, James,
>>>>
>>>> Independently of getting the Status Report corrected, my
>>>> understanding is that draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying
>>>> has been declared ready to go to WGLC 3 months ago as per the
>>>> Stockholm meeting minutes. Could you please:
>>>>        (i) either issue the Last Call
>>>>        (ii) or let us know if there are outstanding thing sin the  
>>>> way.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Francois
>>>>
>>>> On 16 Oct 2009, at 14:43, Michael Behringer (mbehring) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Gorry,
>>>>>
>>>>> Regarding
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying-05 (as INFO)
>>>>> Milestone: Nov 2009
>>>>> - Submit 'Applicability of Keying Methods for RSVP Security' to  
>>>>> IESG
>>>>>
>>>>> ACTION: Reviews Needed to say ready for WGLC
>>>>> Notes: Francois believes this is ready for WGLC.
>>>>> Ran Adkinson no longer has any objection to this.
>>>>> JP will shepherd.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe this status not to be correct. Please refer to
>>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/tsvwg/minutes?item=minutes75.html
>>>>>
>>>>> "          The WG will now take this to LC. People who have
>>>>> commented prior to WGLC
>>>>>        please quickly re-read and confirm this is ready for
>>>>> publication.
>>>>> "
>>>>>
>>>>> My understanding from the last meeting was that:
>>>>> - the chairs would issue a WGLC (quite explicitly in the notes)
>>>>> - people who have commented before to quickly confirm that their
>>>>> concerns
>>>>> have been addressed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please also refer to my mail to the list from 8 Sep
>>>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tsvwg/current/msg09448.html
>>>>> Where I asked whether there are any open issues, and I was not
>>>>> told about any.
>>>>>
>>>>> So in my understanding the document should be in the section
>>>>> ================ WG Chair ACTION NEEDED ================
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please confirm this or correct my statements above?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: [e-mail] on behalf of Gorry Fairhurst
>>>>> Sent: Thu 08-Oct-09 15:46
>>>>> To: tsvwg WG
>>>>> Cc: tsvwg chair
>>>>> Subject: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've summarised the list of drafts I know about in TSVWG and their
>>>>> current state. Please do take time to read this. If there are
>>>>> omissions
>>>>> or corrections, do let me know and I'll fix them.
>>>>>
>>>>> - If you are an author please do update your document before the
>>>>> deadline for the next IETF (not so many weeks from now!!) I see  
>>>>> one
>>>>> document is even expired with pending comments!
>>>>>
>>>>> - If you have comments on these drafts, please let us know. If we
>>>>> are
>>>>> going to things completed by the milestones, we'll need people to
>>>>> comment on the documents and new revisions to be published.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes,
>>>>>
>>>>> Gorry & James
>>>>> (as TSVWG Chairs)
>>>>>
>>>>> ======== TSVWG STATUS 8th OCT 2009 ========
>>>>>
>>>>> ================ IESG Processing ================
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-proxy-approaches-07 (as INFO)
>>>>>
>>>>> Notes: None.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-proxy-proto-09 (as PS)
>>>>>
>>>>> Notes: None.
>>>>>
>>>>> ================ WG Chair ACTION NEEDED ================
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-emergency-rsvp-12 (as PS)
>>>>>
>>>>> Status:  In WGLC (Shepherd = Gorry Fairhurst)
>>>>> ACTION: WG Review reports, and notes of usefulness are needed.
>>>>> Notes: {WGLCTo end: 17th October 2009}
>>>>> 8th Oct - currently no nodes of support or comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-port-randomization-04 (as BCP)
>>>>> Milestone: Nov 2009
>>>>> - Submit 'Port Randomization for Transport Protocols' to the IESG
>>>>>
>>>>> Status: This ID is past WGLC. (Shepherd = James Polk)
>>>>> ACTION: JP to close the LC discussions and provide write-up.
>>>>> Notes: WGLC concluded April 15th
>>>>> New revision posted 3rd July - awaiting response by James Polk.=
>>>>>
>>>>> ================ With WG ================
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-admitted-realtime-dscp-05 (as PS)
>>>>>
>>>>> Status: This ID is past WGLC. (Shepherd = Magnus Westerlund)
>>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors.
>>>>> Notes: JP to make final edits (based on Magnus' AD comments)
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-strrst-00 (as PS)
>>>>>
>>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying-05 (as INFO)
>>>>> Milestone: Nov 2009
>>>>> - Submit 'Applicability of Keying Methods for RSVP Security' to  
>>>>> IESG
>>>>>
>>>>> ACTION: Reviews Needed to say ready for WGLC
>>>>> Notes: Francois believes this is ready for WGLC.
>>>>> Ran Adkinson no longer has any objection to this.
>>>>> JP will shepherd.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-02 (as BCP)
>>>>> Milestone:  Dec 2009
>>>>> -'IANA Procedures for the Transport Protocol Port Number Space'
>>>>>
>>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors.
>>>>> Notes:  GF will shepherd.
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctpsocket-19 (as INFO)
>>>>> Milestone: Dec 2009
>>>>> - 'Sockets API Extensions for SCTP' to IESG
>>>>>
>>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors.
>>>>> Notes: Lacks a good IANA section, and  security consideration.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-03 (as PS)
>>>>> Milestone: Jan 2010
>>>>> - 'Layered Encapsulation of Congestion Notification'
>>>>>
>>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors (WG Comments welcome)
>>>>> Notes: Substantial review of previous version.
>>>>> GF and David Black to confirm if issues raised were answered.
>>>>> New material needs review.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-dtls-for-sctp-01 (as PS)
>>>>> Milestone: Dec 2009
>>>>> - 'DTLS for SCTP'
>>>>>
>>>>> ACTION: Reviewers needed.
>>>>> Notes: Reviews needed to allow this to progress to LC.
>>>>> Authors think this is about ready for WGLC.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-byte-pkt-congest (as INFO)
>>>>> Milestone:  Feb 2010
>>>>> - Request publication of 'Byte and Packet Congestion Notification'
>>>>>
>>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors (WG Comments welcome)
>>>>> Notes: Comments received on rev 00, but no new revision.
>>>>> Current version has expired Feb 2009.
>>>>> Chairs need to know if author wishes to continue with a revised  
>>>>> ID.
>>>>>
>>>>> ================ Individual Drafts ================
>>>>>
>>>>> These drafts are ones that are being tracked, if you have a draft
>>>>> that
>>>>> you think is ready for WG comments please email the Chairs.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>> * draft-tuexen-sctp-udp-encaps-02
>>>>>
>>>>> Notes:
>>>>>      AD help requested to know what with encapsulation drafts.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-fairhurst-6man-tsvwg-udptt-02
>>>>> - The UDP Tunnel Transport mode
>>>>> Status: Individual Submission
>>>>>
>>>>> Notes:
>>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG and 6MAN.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-tuexen-tsvwg-sctp-sack-immediately-02.txt
>>>>> Status: Individual Submission
>>>>>
>>>>> Notes:
>>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-narayanan-tsvwg-rsvp-resource-sharing
>>>>> Status: Individual Submission
>>>>>
>>>>> Notes:
>>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-lefaucheur-tsvwg-rsvp-multiple-preemption
>>>>> Status: Individual Submission
>>>>>
>>>>> Notes:
>>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> draft-narayanan-tsvwg-rsvp-resource-sharing
>>>>> Status: Individual Submission
>>>>>
>>>>> Notes:
>>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-adams-tsvwg-flow-signaling-identification-00
>>>>> -  Flow State Aware signalling standardisation, and a proposal for
>>>>> alerting nodes or end-systems on data related to a flow
>>>>> Status: Individual Submission,  Not discussed by this group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Notes: None.
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> * draft-fairhurst-tsvwg-6man-udpzero-00
>>>>> - IPv6 UDP Checksum Considerations
>>>>> Status: Individual Submission,  Not discussed by this group.
>>>>>
>>>>> Notes:
>>>>> Linked to work in 6MAN, MBONED and LISP
>>>>>
>>>>> --------------------------------------------
>>>>>
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