Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009
ken carlberg <carlberg@g11.org.uk> Thu, 05 November 2009 19:50 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009
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I reviewed the document back in June, and was satisfied with the exchange and changes made to the last draft. I had actually assumed it was ready for WGLC a while back. So if you are in need of a voice to say, "go ahead"....well, go ahead :-) -ken On Nov 5, 2009, at 2:39 PM, James M. Polk wrote: > Francois > > This is directly from the meeting minutes: > > "The WG will now take this to LC. People who have commented prior to > WGLC please quickly re-read and confirm this is ready for > publication." > > Which is close - but not exactly how I remember things. I remember > asking the room for folks to ping the list and say whether this ID > ready for WGLC. No one on the list has commented since Stockholm > about this ID (up or down) -- so we chairs have hesitated issuing > the WGLC. > > Perhaps I should have pushed the WG more directly to the list. I > apologize for that. > > James > > At 12:55 PM 11/5/2009, Francois Le Faucheur wrote: >> Hello Gorry, James, >> >> Any comments on why this document is not going for Last Call as >> (apparently) agreed 4 months ago? >> >> Francois >> >> On 26 Oct 2009, at 19:14, Francois Le Faucheur wrote: >> >>> Gorry, James, >>> >>> Any comments on why this document is not going for Last Call as >>> (apparently) agreed 3.5 months ago? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Francois >>> >>> On 16 Oct 2009, at 15:04, Francois Le Faucheur wrote: >>> >>>> Gorry, James, >>>> >>>> Independently of getting the Status Report corrected, my >>>> understanding is that draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying >>>> has been declared ready to go to WGLC 3 months ago as per the >>>> Stockholm meeting minutes. Could you please: >>>> (i) either issue the Last Call >>>> (ii) or let us know if there are outstanding thing sin the >>>> way. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>> Francois >>>> >>>> On 16 Oct 2009, at 14:43, Michael Behringer (mbehring) wrote: >>>> >>>>> Gorry, >>>>> >>>>> Regarding >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying-05 (as INFO) >>>>> Milestone: Nov 2009 >>>>> - Submit 'Applicability of Keying Methods for RSVP Security' to >>>>> IESG >>>>> >>>>> ACTION: Reviews Needed to say ready for WGLC >>>>> Notes: Francois believes this is ready for WGLC. >>>>> Ran Adkinson no longer has any objection to this. >>>>> JP will shepherd. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> I believe this status not to be correct. Please refer to >>>>> http://tools.ietf.org/wg/tsvwg/minutes?item=minutes75.html >>>>> >>>>> " The WG will now take this to LC. People who have >>>>> commented prior to WGLC >>>>> please quickly re-read and confirm this is ready for >>>>> publication. >>>>> " >>>>> >>>>> My understanding from the last meeting was that: >>>>> - the chairs would issue a WGLC (quite explicitly in the notes) >>>>> - people who have commented before to quickly confirm that their >>>>> concerns >>>>> have been addressed. >>>>> >>>>> Please also refer to my mail to the list from 8 Sep >>>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tsvwg/current/msg09448.html >>>>> Where I asked whether there are any open issues, and I was not >>>>> told about any. >>>>> >>>>> So in my understanding the document should be in the section >>>>> ================ WG Chair ACTION NEEDED ================ >>>>> >>>>> Could you please confirm this or correct my statements above? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Michael >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: tsvwg-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of Gorry Fairhurst >>>>> Sent: Thu 08-Oct-09 15:46 >>>>> To: tsvwg WG >>>>> Cc: tsvwg chair >>>>> Subject: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I've summarised the list of drafts I know about in TSVWG and their >>>>> current state. Please do take time to read this. If there are >>>>> omissions >>>>> or corrections, do let me know and I'll fix them. >>>>> >>>>> - If you are an author please do update your document before the >>>>> deadline for the next IETF (not so many weeks from now!!) I see >>>>> one >>>>> document is even expired with pending comments! >>>>> >>>>> - If you have comments on these drafts, please let us know. If we >>>>> are >>>>> going to things completed by the milestones, we'll need people to >>>>> comment on the documents and new revisions to be published. >>>>> >>>>> Best wishes, >>>>> >>>>> Gorry & James >>>>> (as TSVWG Chairs) >>>>> >>>>> ======== TSVWG STATUS 8th OCT 2009 ======== >>>>> >>>>> ================ IESG Processing ================ >>>>> >>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-proxy-approaches-07 (as INFO) >>>>> >>>>> Notes: None. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-proxy-proto-09 (as PS) >>>>> >>>>> Notes: None. >>>>> >>>>> ================ WG Chair ACTION NEEDED ================ >>>>> >>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-emergency-rsvp-12 (as PS) >>>>> >>>>> Status: In WGLC (Shepherd = Gorry Fairhurst) >>>>> ACTION: WG Review reports, and notes of usefulness are needed. >>>>> Notes: {WGLCTo end: 17th October 2009} >>>>> 8th Oct - currently no nodes of support or comments. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-port-randomization-04 (as BCP) >>>>> Milestone: Nov 2009 >>>>> - Submit 'Port Randomization for Transport Protocols' to the IESG >>>>> >>>>> Status: This ID is past WGLC. (Shepherd = James Polk) >>>>> ACTION: JP to close the LC discussions and provide write-up. >>>>> Notes: WGLC concluded April 15th >>>>> New revision posted 3rd July - awaiting response by James Polk.= >>>>> >>>>> ================ With WG ================ >>>>> >>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-admitted-realtime-dscp-05 (as PS) >>>>> >>>>> Status: This ID is past WGLC. (Shepherd = Magnus Westerlund) >>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors. >>>>> Notes: JP to make final edits (based on Magnus' AD comments) >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctp-strrst-00 (as PS) >>>>> >>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-rsvp-security-groupkeying-05 (as INFO) >>>>> Milestone: Nov 2009 >>>>> - Submit 'Applicability of Keying Methods for RSVP Security' to >>>>> IESG >>>>> >>>>> ACTION: Reviews Needed to say ready for WGLC >>>>> Notes: Francois believes this is ready for WGLC. >>>>> Ran Adkinson no longer has any objection to this. >>>>> JP will shepherd. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-iana-ports-02 (as BCP) >>>>> Milestone: Dec 2009 >>>>> -'IANA Procedures for the Transport Protocol Port Number Space' >>>>> >>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors. >>>>> Notes: GF will shepherd. >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-sctpsocket-19 (as INFO) >>>>> Milestone: Dec 2009 >>>>> - 'Sockets API Extensions for SCTP' to IESG >>>>> >>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors. >>>>> Notes: Lacks a good IANA section, and security consideration. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-ecn-tunnel-03 (as PS) >>>>> Milestone: Jan 2010 >>>>> - 'Layered Encapsulation of Congestion Notification' >>>>> >>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors (WG Comments welcome) >>>>> Notes: Substantial review of previous version. >>>>> GF and David Black to confirm if issues raised were answered. >>>>> New material needs review. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-dtls-for-sctp-01 (as PS) >>>>> Milestone: Dec 2009 >>>>> - 'DTLS for SCTP' >>>>> >>>>> ACTION: Reviewers needed. >>>>> Notes: Reviews needed to allow this to progress to LC. >>>>> Authors think this is about ready for WGLC. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-ietf-tsvwg-byte-pkt-congest (as INFO) >>>>> Milestone: Feb 2010 >>>>> - Request publication of 'Byte and Packet Congestion Notification' >>>>> >>>>> ACTION: Awaiting new revision by authors (WG Comments welcome) >>>>> Notes: Comments received on rev 00, but no new revision. >>>>> Current version has expired Feb 2009. >>>>> Chairs need to know if author wishes to continue with a revised >>>>> ID. >>>>> >>>>> ================ Individual Drafts ================ >>>>> >>>>> These drafts are ones that are being tracked, if you have a draft >>>>> that >>>>> you think is ready for WG comments please email the Chairs. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> * draft-tuexen-sctp-udp-encaps-02 >>>>> >>>>> Notes: >>>>> AD help requested to know what with encapsulation drafts. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-fairhurst-6man-tsvwg-udptt-02 >>>>> - The UDP Tunnel Transport mode >>>>> Status: Individual Submission >>>>> >>>>> Notes: >>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG and 6MAN. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-tuexen-tsvwg-sctp-sack-immediately-02.txt >>>>> Status: Individual Submission >>>>> >>>>> Notes: >>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-narayanan-tsvwg-rsvp-resource-sharing >>>>> Status: Individual Submission >>>>> >>>>> Notes: >>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-lefaucheur-tsvwg-rsvp-multiple-preemption >>>>> Status: Individual Submission >>>>> >>>>> Notes: >>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> draft-narayanan-tsvwg-rsvp-resource-sharing >>>>> Status: Individual Submission >>>>> >>>>> Notes: >>>>> Presented at IETF-75 (Stockholm) to TSVWG >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-adams-tsvwg-flow-signaling-identification-00 >>>>> - Flow State Aware signalling standardisation, and a proposal for >>>>> alerting nodes or end-systems on data related to a flow >>>>> Status: Individual Submission, Not discussed by this group. >>>>> >>>>> Notes: None. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> * draft-fairhurst-tsvwg-6man-udpzero-00 >>>>> - IPv6 UDP Checksum Considerations >>>>> Status: Individual Submission, Not discussed by this group. >>>>> >>>>> Notes: >>>>> Linked to work in 6MAN, MBONED and LISP >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009 Francois Le Faucheur
- [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009 Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009 Francois Le Faucheur
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009 Michael Behringer (mbehring)
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009 Francois Le Faucheur
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009 Francois Le Faucheur
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009 James M. Polk
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009 ken carlberg
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009 Brian Weis
- Re: [tsvwg] TSVWG Status Report Oct 2009 Francois Le Faucheur