Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1)
Uma Chunduri <umac.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 06 May 2020 00:27 UTC
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Subject: Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1)
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Support Option-1 i.e., ECT(1) as an input signal to the network and remaining issues need to be worked out here. FWIW: There is real need for this work and it can ease things from best-effort queues. While I don't claim to understand all other implications of various CC stuff on this, IMO this is better than mapping it to DSCP code points (which has only limited options when its mapped to TC bits in some environments). -- Uma C. On Mon, May 4, 2020 at 11:15 AM Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com> wrote: > *In this email thread, please state, concisely, which of the following > viewpoints on ECT(1) you prefer. Please have extended discussion in a > different thread. If you are uncomfortable sharing your opinion on the > list, you may email the tsvwg chairs directly (tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org > <tsvwg-chairs@ietf.org>). * > > > > > > * If you did not attend the 27 April interim, please watch the meeting > video [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw3YKyeFxQU > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw3YKyeFxQU>] for context on this > question. 1. I support using ECT(1) as an input signal to the network. This > is the approach consistent with the current L4S drafts. This position does > not mean that there are no remaining issues with L4S, but that the > remaining issues can be resolved by continued WG effort on the current > drafts. 2. I support using ECT(1) as an output signal from the network. > This is consistent with SCE. If you believe L4S will not be safe for the > internet without significant architectural changes, you are in this group. > 3. There is a specific test or tests I need to see before making a decision > about ECT(1). Please be specific about the tests in your response. Please > submit your opinion by 5/18/2020. * > >
- [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Wesley Eddy
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Greg White
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Jonathan Morton
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Steven Blake
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Jeremy Harris
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Smith, Kevin, Vodafone Group
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Roland Bless
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Neal Cardwell
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Anders Bloom
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Finkelstein, Jeff (CCI-Atlanta)
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Tommy Pauly
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) De Schepper, Koen (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) C. M. Heard
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Uma Chunduri
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Ruediger.Geib
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Kyle Rose
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Black, David
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Holland, Jake
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Ozer, Sebnem
- [tsvwg] 3) "There is a specific test or tests I n… Dave Taht
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Ranganathan, Ram
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Paul Vixie
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Adi Masputra
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Asad Sajjad Ahmed
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Christoph Paasch
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Scheffenegger, Richard
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Lars Eggert
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Tilmans, Olivier (Nokia - BE/Antwerp)
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Andreas Petlund
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Rodney W. Grimes
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Jana Iyengar
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Joakim Misund
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Pete Heist
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Vividh Siddha
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) David Pullen
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Campos, Angel, Vodafone Spain
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Flinck, Hannu (Nokia - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Karthik Sundaresan
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Praveen Balasubramanian
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) philip.eardley
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Tom Henderson
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Dave Taht
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) K. K. Ramakrishnan
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Liyizhou
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Dan Siemon
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Mohit P. Tahiliani
- [tsvwg] More testing (was: Consensus call on ECT(… Bob Briscoe
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Roland Bless
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [tsvwg] Consensus call on ECT(1) Steven Blake