Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol-11 - Dictionary
Francis Pouatcha <fpo@adorsys.de> Tue, 21 July 2020 18:09 UTC
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From: Francis Pouatcha <fpo@adorsys.de>
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Subject: Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol-11 - Dictionary
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On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 1:59 PM Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> wrote: > FYI: I consider the release of claims to be an "authorization" as well. > Great. Then it is included. > > IE, the user authorizes the GS to release a DOB claim to a Client. > I guess you mean the "RO" authorizes the GS to release a DOB! > > > > On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 10:42 AM Francis Pouatcha <fpo@adorsys.de> wrote: > >> >> On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 12:00 PM Dick Hardt <dick.hardt@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks for putting this together Francis. I like how you have put >>> different aspects of a definition into separate points. It reinforces the >>> multiple aspects. >>> >>> I don't see identity claims in your definitions. Was that intentional, >>> or an oversight. >>> >> The extensive dictionary will surely include more terms. >> >> I limited the list to terms relevant to the abstract sequence for now. >> Making an effort to keep the discussion focused on the abstract sequence. >> >> As we are talking authorization, identities are second class citizens, >> focus shall be on Negotiating and Obtaining the AuthZ to access a Resource. >> >>> >>> wrt. Registered Client / Dynamic Client - in my experience putting the >>> definitions together helps a reader grasp all the various terms used. >>> >> Yes, this clarification belongs in the dictionary. Intentionally left it >> out here to avoid diverging the discussion. >> >>> >>> Curious why you include "party" in the definition. I would not have >>> thought that had a definition unique to GNAP. >>> >> I derived this from your subsection "Parties". As all participants in the >> abstract sequence are "parties", the word seems too heavy to be left >> undefined. Also essential to know which words in the dictionary do not >> refer to parties like Resource, Grant, AuthZ, ... >> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 6:01 PM Francis Pouatcha <fpo@adorsys.de> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello Dick, >>>> >>>> Here is (in a new thread) the promised attempt to define terms of >>>> interest in the GNAP protocol. >>>> >>>> Party - represents a role in the GNAP protocol flow. A party can take >>>> the form of a web service, an application installed on the user device and >>>> acting autonomously or the form of a natural person (resp. of an autonomous >>>> device) using an application to interact with other parties. >>>> >>>> Resource - a piece of data or web service >>>> - controlled by a Resource Owner (RO), >>>> - held and guarded by a Resource Server (RS) and >>>> - serviced by the RS to a Client, if the Client provides a valid >>>> Authorization. >>>> >>>> Resource Owner (RO) - the party that >>>> - owns a Resource, >>>> - relies on the services the GS to manage access to that Resource >>>> and >>>> - relies on the services of a RS to hold the Resource and guard >>>> access to that Resource. >>>> >>>> Resource Server (RS) - the party that >>>> - holds a resource and guards access to that resource on behalf >>>> of the RO, >>>> - services the Resource to the requesting Client, provided the >>>> Client presents a valid Authorization. >>>> The RS is generally deployed as a web service. >>>> >>>> Grant Server (GS) - the party that manages access to a Resource on >>>> behalf of the RO. For each Resource access request, the GS might request >>>> the consent of the RO and produce a corresponding Authorization that is >>>> given to the requesting Client. >>>> >>>> Consent - act of an RO approving the release of a Resource he owns to a >>>> Client. >>>> >>>> Grant - material form of an RO Consent. In order not to interact with >>>> the RO on each Resource access request, the GS might store the RO Consent >>>> in the form of a Grant for reuse. >>>> >>>> Authorization - externalized form of a Grant as known to the GS and the >>>> RS. >>>> - The GS converts a Grant into an Authorization for use in a >>>> Resource access request. >>>> - The RS evaluates an Authorization to decide on whether or not >>>> to release the Resource to the Client. >>>> >>>> Client - the party that provides the infrastructure used by a User to >>>> access a Resource. The client infrastructure is designed to: >>>> - Receive the resource access request from the User, >>>> - Interact with the RS to discover authorization requirements, >>>> - Interact with the GS to obtain an Authorization to access the >>>> Resource, >>>> - Interact with the RS to access the Resource on behalf of the >>>> User. >>>> >>>> User - the party using the infrastructure of the Client to gain access >>>> to a Resource. >>>> >>>> This dictionary is supposed to be the base for further discussions that >>>> will allow us to provide each term with just enough description to reduce >>>> ambiguities and misunderstandings in further exchanges. I intentionally >>>> omitted the specification of the type and nature of each party (For example >>>> Client / Registered Client / Dynamic Client). Such elaborations belong IMO >>>> in proper subsections. >>>> >>>> Comments are welcome. >>>> >>>> Best regards. >>>> -- >>>> Francis Pouatcha >>>> Co-Founder and Technical Lead >>>> adorsys GmbH & Co. KG >>>> https://adorsys-platform.de/solutions/ >>>> >>> >> >> -- >> Francis Pouatcha >> Co-Founder and Technical Lead >> adorsys GmbH & Co. KG >> https://adorsys-platform.de/solutions/ >> > -- Francis Pouatcha Co-Founder and Technical Lead adorsys GmbH & Co. KG https://adorsys-platform.de/solutions/
- [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol-11 … Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Tom Jones
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Tom Jones
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Fabien Imbault
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Tom Jones
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Tom Jones
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Tom Jones
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Tom Jones
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Reviewing draft-hardt-xauth-protocol… Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Tom Jones
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Francis Pouatcha
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Mike Jones
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Dick Hardt
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Justin Richer
- Re: [Txauth] Claims [was: - Dictionary] Dick Hardt