Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IETF protocol interaction
Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com> Thu, 06 January 2022 18:41 UTC
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From: Adrian Gropper <agropper@healthurl.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2022 13:41:41 -0500
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Subject: Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IETF protocol interaction
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Mark and Leif, I too appreciate Mark's comments and that they were cross-posted to W3C CCG. Having spent close to a decade working with Kanatara on UMA, I am glad to see Mark's intent to collaborate more deeply with GNAP. I'm also quite invested in the W3C CCG and related work because Self Sovereign Identity (SSI) represents a more sophisticated approach to today's identity problems than federation. My immediate challenge is finding implementers interested in putting human rights ahead of short-term funding. My ability to demonstrate decentralization at the community level (and keep federation on the side) requires working libraries and the willingness of the coders to support the example (HIE of One Trustee). The Trustee demonstration benefits from most, if not all, of the features that Mark is describing. It needs to be built with GNAP and community-owned microservices as the core. DIDs and VCs will be an important component because they represent SSI. Blockchains are optional in this version of Trustee. My point is that I'm personally not much interested in adding human rights considerations to either W3C, IETF, or Kantara if there is no group of implementers that are at least willing to provide support for the libraries that can help demonstrate human rights rather than talk about it. Please consider reposting our conversation and this comment to include W3C CCG. Adrian On Thu, Jan 6, 2022 at 12:44 PM Leif Johansson <leifj@sunet.se> wrote: > On 2022-01-06 17:08, Mark Lizar wrote: > > Thank you Leif for the very valuable direction, I will add this to the > ANCR WG agenda and look forward to reporting back. > > > > Cheers Mark > > Excellent, thx! > > Cheers Leif > > -- > TXAuth mailing list > TXAuth@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/txauth >
- [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IETF p… Adrian Gropper
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Bob Wyman
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Adrian Gropper
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… MXS Insights
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Ted Thibodeau Jr
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Adrian Gropper
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Alan Karp
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Bob Wyman
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Adrian Gropper
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Bob Wyman
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Adrian Gropper
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Justin Richer
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Bron Gondwana
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Adrian Gropper
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Leif Johansson
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Justin Richer
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Dave Crocker
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Mark Lizar
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Justin Richer
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Dave Crocker
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Mark Lizar
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Leif Johansson
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Leif Johansson
- Re: [GNAP] Human rights perspective on W3C and IE… Adrian Gropper