Re: [v6ops] [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-v6ops-icp-guidance-03.txt]

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sun, 11 March 2012 19:15 UTC

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Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 08:14:58 +1300
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-v6ops-icp-guidance-03.txt]
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Hi Deng,

On 2012-03-12 04:35, Hui Deng wrote:
> Hi Authors,
> 
> I have several comments about this draft:
> 1) do you want to classify different level of ICP, from the reading, this
> document is targetting at
> the ICP who are not faimliar with IPv6, but sometimes, ICP may deploy their
> server in some IDC or some may
> be based on their own location, which may have different consideration;

I think that our main target is an ICP that is mainly familiar with IPv4.
In the case of an ICP hosted by a hosting provider or IDC, I suppose we
are addressing the hosting provider, and we should say that.

> 
> 2) Most of ICP consider end to end IPv4 together with outside in and inside
> out;

Yes, we are assuming they are already supporting e2e IPv4.

> 
> 3) Load balance is still needed which is same as today IPv4 even there are
> no more traffic for IPv6,

Not if only 1% of the traffics is from IPv6. It's only when the traffic
becomes large that you need load balancing.

> for most ICP, they need to know the geo-location information during the
> packet going through the load balance.

Sure. The point is only that the quality of the geolocation lookup
is alleged to be weaker for IPv6 today. Obviously this will improve.

> 
> 4) ICP need to fully understand how to avoid DDOS when they launch the
> IPv6, otherwise they will always need NAT solution

Can you explain that please?

Thanks

    Brian
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -Hui
> 
> 
> 2012/2/23 Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> This version has various updates due to comments from the WG.
>>
>> We are not asking for a meeting slot in Paris, but we'd like the
>> chairs to put the question whether the WG wants to adopt this
>> draft. In any case we still want more input to correct and
>> expand the draft.
>>
>>    Brian + Sheng
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-v6ops-icp-guidance-03.txt
>> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:30:09 -0800
>> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org
>> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
>>
>>
>> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
>> Internet-Drafts directories.
>>
>>        Title           : IPv6 Guidance for Internet Content and
>> Application Service Providers
>>        Author(s)       : Brian Carpenter
>>                          Sheng Jiang
>>        Filename        : draft-carpenter-v6ops-icp-guidance-03.txt
>>        Pages           : 18
>>        Date            : 2012-02-22
>>
>>   This document provides guidance and suggestions for Internet
>> Content
>>   Providers and Application Service Providers who wish to offer
>> their
>>   service to both IPv6 and IPv4 customers.  Many of the points will
>>   also apply to any enterprise network preparing for IPv6 users.
>>
>>
>> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
>>
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-carpenter-v6ops-icp-guidance-03.txt
>>
>> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
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>>
>> This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at:
>>
>> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-carpenter-v6ops-icp-guidance-03.txt
>>
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