Re: [v6ops] [Fwd: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-v6ops-icp-guidance-03.txt]

inline please,

2012/3/12 Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>

> Hi Deng,
>
> On 2012-03-12 04:35, Hui Deng wrote:
> > Hi Authors,
> >
> > I have several comments about this draft:
> > 1) do you want to classify different level of ICP, from the reading, this
> > document is targetting at
> > the ICP who are not faimliar with IPv6, but sometimes, ICP may deploy
> their
> > server in some IDC or some may
> > be based on their own location, which may have different consideration;
>
> I think that our main target is an ICP that is mainly familiar with IPv4.
> In the case of an ICP hosted by a hosting provider or IDC, I suppose we
> are addressing the hosting provider, and we should say that.
>
> >
> > 2) Most of ICP consider end to end IPv4 together with outside in and
> inside
> > out;
>
> Yes, we are assuming they are already supporting e2e IPv4.
>
>

> >
> > 3) Load balance is still needed which is same as today IPv4 even there
> are
> > no more traffic for IPv6,
>
> Not if only 1% of the traffics is from IPv6. It's only when the traffic
> becomes large that you need load balancing.
>
loading balancing is sitting together with DDOS prevention and many other
features, even 1%, they still need it.


>
> > for most ICP, they need to know the geo-location information during the
> > packet going through the load balance.
>
> Sure. The point is only that the quality of the geolocation lookup
> is alleged to be weaker for IPv6 today. Obviously this will improve.
>
this information is bundled with many other ICP services, this have to be
considered anyway by them.


>
> >
> > 4) ICP need to fully understand how to avoid DDOS when they launch the
> > IPv6, otherwise they will always need NAT solution
>
> Can you explain that please?
>
this expecting that this document could explain how to avoid DDOS in
detail, otherwise, they have to deploy special NAT to handle this by
configure some policy over there.

-Hui


>
> Thanks
>
>    Brian
>  >
> > Regards,
> >
> > -Hui
> >
> >
> > 2012/2/23 Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> This version has various updates due to comments from the WG.
> >>
> >> We are not asking for a meeting slot in Paris, but we'd like the
> >> chairs to put the question whether the WG wants to adopt this
> >> draft. In any case we still want more input to correct and
> >> expand the draft.
> >>
> >>    Brian + Sheng
> >>
> >> -------- Original Message --------
> >> Subject: I-D Action: draft-carpenter-v6ops-icp-guidance-03.txt
> >> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 14:30:09 -0800
> >> From: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> >> Reply-To: internet-drafts@ietf.org
> >> To: i-d-announce@ietf.org
> >>
> >>
> >> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line
> >> Internet-Drafts directories.
> >>
> >>        Title           : IPv6 Guidance for Internet Content and
> >> Application Service Providers
> >>        Author(s)       : Brian Carpenter
> >>                          Sheng Jiang
> >>        Filename        : draft-carpenter-v6ops-icp-guidance-03.txt
> >>        Pages           : 18
> >>        Date            : 2012-02-22
> >>
> >>   This document provides guidance and suggestions for Internet
> >> Content
> >>   Providers and Application Service Providers who wish to offer
> >> their
> >>   service to both IPv6 and IPv4 customers.  Many of the points will
> >>   also apply to any enterprise network preparing for IPv6 users.
> >>
> >>
> >> A URL for this Internet-Draft is:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-carpenter-v6ops-icp-guidance-03.txt
> >>
> >> Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
> >> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/
> >>
> >> This Internet-Draft can be retrieved at:
> >>
> >>
> ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-carpenter-v6ops-icp-guidance-03.txt
> >>
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