[v6ops] Re: The V6OPS WG has placed draft-cc-v6ops-wlcg-flow-label-marking in state "Call For Adoption By WG Issued"

Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com> Fri, 26 July 2024 16:38 UTC

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From: Tom Herbert <tom@herbertland.com>
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2024 09:38:41 -0700
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On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 9:32 AM Nick Buraglio
<buraglio@forwardingplane.net> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 12:27 AM Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 05:04:03PM -0700, Tom Herbert wrote:
> > > Can you provide more information on this? Also, as "research" networks
> > > it seems like there might be more latitude to be cutting edge and fix
> > > problems with things like EH?
>
> "Research and Education" perhaps needs to be adjusted or better
> defined, and those not in that community probably have no frame of
> reference. In most cases an "R&E network" is a network dedicated to
> connecting research facilities and educational institutions. In the
> general case, these are not enterprise style networks, but are
> purpose-built with the express reasoning that a typical enterprise
> network cannot or will not accommodate their needs. They may consist
> of "enterprise style" components, but they are - in general - built to
> carry atypical traffic like large flows, massive data sets, and in
> many cases to facilitate other types of research. For examples of how
> many of these are tuned to accomplish this, see
> https://fasterdata.es.net/

Nick,

If they're purpose built then doesn't that imply there's some level of
customization that might be amenable to enabling extension headers
throughout the network?

Tom

>
> >
> > Over here, "research" networks are more enterprise-style networks providing
> > Internet connectivity to universities.
> >
> > There is no network research going on, many of them even lacking IPv6
> > support (because, "enterprise").
> >
> > Gert Doering
> >         -- NetMaster
> > --
> > have you enabled IPv6 on something today...?
> >
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