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Re: [v6ops] Supporting IPv6-only Networks with NAT64 and DNS64 section of draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-01

David Schinazi <dschinazi@apple.com> Wed, 28 June 2017 22:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Supporting IPv6-only Networks with NAT64 and DNS64 section of draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-01
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This section is titled "Supporting IPv6-only Networks with NAT64 and DNS64", dual-stack is out of scope of this section.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,
David Schinazi


> On Jun 28, 2017, at 08:54, stephan.lagerholm@yahoo.com wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> Yes I have. 464XLAT or anything else is not required to be able to run DNS64/NAT64. You can run DNS64/NAT64 in combination with Dual Stack if you want to. 
> 
> /S
> 
> 
> From: David Schinazi <dschinazi@apple.com>
> To: "stephan.lagerholm@yahoo.com" <stephan.lagerholm@yahoo.com> 
> Cc: IPv6 Ops WG <v6ops@ietf.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Supporting IPv6-only Networks with NAT64 and DNS64 section of draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-01
> 
> Hi Stephan,
> 
> Have you read the rest of that section that details the changes required on client devices?
> 
> Thanks,
> David Schinazi
> 
> 
> On Jun 28, 2017, at 08:33, "stephan.lagerholm@yahoo.com <mailto:stephan.lagerholm@yahoo.com>" <stephan.lagerholm@yahoo.com <mailto:stephan.lagerholm@yahoo.com>> wrote:
> 
>> Hi David,
>> 
>> Thanks for adding the Supporting IPv6-only Networks with NAT64 and DNS64 section, I find it useful. However I don't think the below sentence from this section is accurate. I can't think of any changes that are needed on a client device to run NAT64/DNS64. 
>> 
>> While many IPv6 transition protocols have been standardized and
>>    deployed, most are transparent to client devices.  The combined use
>>    of NAT64 [RFC6146] and DNS64 [RFC6147] is a popular solution that is
>>    being deployed and requires changes in client devices.
>> 
>> Thanks, Stephan
>> 
>> 
> 
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