Re: [v6ops] Supporting IPv6-only Networks with NAT64 and DNS64 section of draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-01

["[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>]

Fair enough, the Dual stack example is not applicable in this section. I'm hung up that the draft says that it requires changes on in client devices because it contradicts RFC 6174 section 2 that says that current IPv6 nodes can use this mechanism without requiring any modifications. 

The first option is to locate the DNS64 function in authoritative
   servers for a zone.  In this case, the authoritative server provides
   synthetic AAAA RRs for an IPv4-only host in its zone.  This is one
   type of DNS64 server.

   Another option is to locate the DNS64 function in recursive name
   servers serving end hosts.  In this case, when an IPv6-only host
   queries the name server for AAAA RRs for an IPv4-only host, the name
   server can perform the synthesis of AAAA RRs and pass them back to
   the IPv6-only initiator.  The main advantage of this mode is that
   current IPv6 nodes can use this mechanism without requiring any
   modification.

      From: David Schinazi <[e-mail]>
 To: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]> 
Cc: IPv6 Ops WG <[e-mail]>
 Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:00 PM
 Subject: Re: Supporting IPv6-only Networks with NAT64 and DNS64 section of draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-01
   
This section is titled "Supporting IPv6-only Networks with NAT64 and DNS64", dual-stack is out of scope of this section.
Am I missing something?
Thanks,David Schinazi



On Jun 28, 2017, at 08:54, [e-mail] wrote:
Hi David,
Yes I have. 464XLAT or anything else is not required to be able to run DNS64/NAT64. You can run DNS64/NAT64 in combination with Dual Stack if you want to. 
/S

      From: David Schinazi <[e-mail]>
 To: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]> 
Cc: IPv6 Ops WG <[e-mail]>
 Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 8:37 AM
 Subject: Re: Supporting IPv6-only Networks with NAT64 and DNS64 section of draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc6555bis-01
  
Hi Stephan,
Have you read the rest of that section that details the changes required on client devices?

Thanks,
David Schinazi

On Jun 28, 2017, at 08:33, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]> wrote:


Hi David,
Thanks for adding the Supporting IPv6-only Networks with NAT64 and DNS64 section, I find it useful. However I don't think the below sentence from this section is accurate. I can't think of any changes that are needed on a client device to run NAT64/DNS64. 
While many IPv6 transition protocols have been standardized and   deployed, most are transparent to client devices.  The combined use   of NAT64 [RFC6146] and DNS64 [RFC6147] is a popular solution that is   being deployed and requires changes in client devices.
Thanks, Stephan