Re: [v6ops] Google Alert

Fully agree and in fact this was the basis of my discussion with Europol last week.

We had a complete day workshop on this topic, plus many documents exchange in preparation for that.

After my presentation and all day long discussions, it was clear that the path is deploying IPv6 + voluntary code of conduct among ISPs + legislation.

I also showed that there are ways and ways to deploy IPv6, in terms of different transition mechanism.

Then as promoting (again) IPv6 deployment was decided as the first step from the EC and member states, I indicated that we need to provide example in our own institutions, so I asked (I knew the answer in advance) to raise the hand to all the member states that have already their institutions (police in this case), already IPv6 enabled … surprise surprise … none was ready.

So, I asked if we can agree in a short-term plan for all them to “at least” have public plan announced in the next 6 months. So that’s what I will be working now with them.

Regards,
Jordi

-----Mensaje original-----
De: v6ops <v6ops-bounces@ietf.org> en nombre de Paul Marks <pmarks@google.com>
Responder a: <pmarks@google.com>
Fecha: jueves, 19 de octubre de 2017, 0:01
Para: Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com>
CC: <v6ops@ietf.org>
Asunto: Re: [v6ops] Google Alert - IPv6

    On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
    > So, this may be a dumb question. IPv6 advocates will reflexively agree with
    > comments on “CGNAT is a bad idea”. But as operators who very likely have
    > some combination of IPv6 and CGNAT, do we have thoughtful experience-based
    > comments on this topic?

    CGNAT is unavoidable, until IPv4 is turned off completely.  There are
    more humans than IPv4 addresses, so somebody needs to share.

    Deploying CGNAT without deploying IPv6 first is a bad idea.

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