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"Frank Bulk" <frnkblk@iname.com> Fri, 05 August 2011 23:10 UTC

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To: 'George Michaelson' <ggm+ietf@apnic.net>
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Subject: RE: [v6ops] Lion/Snow Leaopard side-by-side on an IPv6 enabled	ADSL2+ home line..
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:10:26 -0500
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Then why hasn't Microsoft addressed the IPv6 issues around accidental use of
ICS?  That's been known for a long time, MSFT is aware of it, yet I'm still
waiting for that patch...

Frank

-----Original Message-----
From: v6ops-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
George Michaelson
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:10 PM
To: Mark Andrews
Cc: IPv6 Operations
Subject: Re: [v6ops] Lion/Snow Leaopard side-by-side on an IPv6 enabled
ADSL2+ home line..


On 04/08/2011, at 1:36 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:

> 
> It all depends on when you think deployment of CGN/AFTR/NAT64 boxes
> will happen.  My feeling is you will see these boxes being widely
> deployed within 3 years and ISP's scrambling to move IPv4 only
> customers to IPv4 + IPv6 or IPv6 only to reduce the number of
> CGN/AFTR/NAT64 boxes they need to deploy.  Currently shipping code
> shouldn't make the problem worse when this happens.


Mark, consider both Apple, and Microsofts codebase 3 years ago, and the
frequency of updates.

Lion has been out precisely <1month, and has had one update already.

Vista gets regular self-applied updates. 

You cannot seriously be saying that the consequential 'damage' to the v6
message stems from this deployment, because it only applies to people WHO GO
ONLINE and if they go online with Apple they get FREE UPDATES.

What am I missing? Do you think Apple owners stay on factory defaults?

Really?

-george
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