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Re: [v6ops] Lion/Snow Leaopard side-by-side on an IPv6 enabled ADSL2+ home line..

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Fri, 05 August 2011 18:02 UTC

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To: Cameron Byrne <cb.list6@gmail.com>
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[ Not responding specifically to Cameron here, more of a meta comment. ]

On Aug 5, 2011, at 12:14 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote:

> On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 7:08 AM, Daniel Roesen <dr@cluenet.de> wrote:
>> On Fri, Aug 05, 2011 at 03:53:45PM +0200, Philip Homburg wrote:
>>> It is always possible that as an operating system designer, you miss an
>>> operator perspective.
>> 
>> I get a distinct impression that the operator perspective wasn't of
>> relevant interest (and still isn't).
>> 
>> To make the IPv6 transission as painless as possible, all stakeholders
>> have to work together, based on a common "big picture".
>> 
> 
> I don't believe Apple's goal is IPv6 transition, they are locally
> optimizing their own product and user experience.

Wow! Imagine that, a company optimizing their user experience and providing the *users* what they want, instead of some religious ideology.

For shame.

For years the users have been living under the shackles of NAT, and their lives have been pure hell because of it -- they have not been able to use the applications they want, have not been able to access any content, send email, use VoIP, etc. Now is the time to liberate them from the tyranny of address translation and drag them, kicking and screaming into a new world, full of happiness, light and more bits in an address.

Sure, their lives may suck for a while while we add some latency to their IPv4 world, but, hey, this will just provide the necessary impetus to make them change... and, once they have, their dancing hamsters sure will look prettier, and they'll never look back...

W

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> Cameron
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> 
>> Best regards,
>> Daniel
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