Re: [v6ops] [Idr] BGP Identifier

"lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com" <lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com> Tue, 18 February 2014 11:36 UTC

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Thank you very much for your information, Jim.We also have some tools to help us to plan and operate our networks. However at present none of the tools can satisfy the requirment of this draft.
Anyway, you do not think it is a problem to plan the 32-bit BGP ID for a very large scale IPv6-only network?



lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com
 From: UTTARO, JAMESDate: 2014-02-18 19:27To: lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com; Randy BushCC: 'idr wg'; 'V6 Ops List'; 'Robert Raszuk'Subject: RE: [Idr] [v6ops] BGP Identifier







We have developed numerous configuration tools that create/mod PE, RR configs. We also have lots of tools that speak to the network in a live sense to get health,
 stats … All of the raw material is readily available. TBH I cannot speak to you about our solutions in anymore depth..
 
Jim Uttaro
 


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Subject: Re: [Idr] [v6ops] BGP Identifier


 

Tell me please the large provider that you know has his own automatic configuration tools. I would like to contact him to learn from him. 


 







lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com





 




From: Randy
 Bush


Date: 2014-02-18 10:40


To: lizhenqiang@chinamobile.com


CC: fanpeng;
'idr wg'; 'V6 Ops List';
'Robert Raszuk'


Subject: Re: [Idr] [v6ops] BGP Identifier





> Do you have such tools to config your network? Or do you know the


> vendor that provide such tools?Indeed, such programmatic generation


> tools are good for network plan. But the logic in the tools is


> complecated especially for a very large network with hierarchical


> operation as Peng Fan mentioned.


 


there are products in the space, but the large providers i know who


configure programatically developed their own.  there are not enough


large providers not suffering from 'not invented here' to make a


reasonable customer base for serious software development.


 


but it pays for itself, so smart folk who develop it.


 


randy