Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to careful about ULAs
Jeroen Massar <jeroen@massar.ch> Sat, 01 June 2013 17:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to careful about ULAs
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On 2013-06-01 09:16, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Jun 1, 2013, at 8:26 AM, Sander Steffann <sander@steffann.nl> > wrote: >>>> So you're arguing that every router on the internet needs a >>>> global IP address? >>> >>> Every node on the IPv6 internet needs a global IPv6 address. >> >> +1 > > So I also +1 this, but if people are seeing traceroutes with ULAs in > them, apparently _someone_ doesn't agree. Nothing to do with disagreement, everything to do with not understanding (nicely put) where ULA should be used and how. Next to not understanding the concepts of BCP38/84. Note that it seems that in this specific case the vendor actually informed them that they could/should use a ULA there as it would never leak to the Internet anyway..... thus can't even completely blame the person who configured it, though I don't understand why one still then would try and select ULA there when you have enough global space. Greets, Jeroen
- [v6ops] A good example of why we need to careful … Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Jeroen Massar
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… joel jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Mark Andrews
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Liubing (Leo)
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Jeroen Massar
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Jeroen Massar
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Sander Steffann
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Arturo Servin
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Ted Lemon
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Jeroen Massar
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Fred Baker (fred)
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Gunter Van de Velde (gvandeve)
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Brian Haberman
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Gunter Van de Velde (gvandeve)
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Gunter Van de Velde (gvandeve)
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Lorenzo Colitti
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Wuyts Carl
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Owen DeLong
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Gert Doering
- Re: [v6ops] A good example of why we need to care… Wuyts Carl