Re: I-D.ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-09

Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Fri, 19 March 2010 19:35 UTC

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Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:34:11 +1300
From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: I-D.ietf-v6ops-cpe-simple-security-09
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Mark, I'm not going to reply to your specific question.

The one most clear result from the ISP survey I will report
on during the IETF is that the biggest gap in products holding
up general v6 deployment is CPE.

I think it's a matter of great urgency to get this draft
out as an RFC; it's a couple of years too late.

So I want to say: let's not add *anything*. Let's just
push it out in a matter of weeks.

The same applies to draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router
of course.

Regards
   Brian Carpenter

On 2010-03-20 07:00, Mark Townsley wrote:
> 
> I would like to propose some form of "ParanoidOpeness" (Rule #7) from
> draft-vyncke-advanced-ipv6-security-01 to be brought into the
> simple-security draft.
> 
> The basic idea is that rather than blocking otherwise unauthorized
> inbound connections outright, the CPE rate-limits them according to a
> variable setting. When that setting is 0, all incoming packets are
> dropped. When set to its maximum, all packets are permitted (as if the
> firewall function is configured off). In-between, the CPE rate-limits
> incoming packets to reduce probing of the home network, but to allow
> just enough packets through that, if a host inside responds, a pinhole
> is opened for the communication to occur. Of course, the hard part is
> what the default setting should be, but I'd like to get a sense first of
> whether we can bring this function in.
> 
> James, I think I remember you being warm to the idea in some (jabber?)
> comments during the meeting in Hiroshima when I presented this first.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> - Mark
> 
> On 3/4/10 12:06 AM, james woodyatt wrote:
>> everyone--
>>
>> Once again, I'd like to ask for some discussion and feedback on this
>> draft.  Is there any reason this revision of the draft should not
>> proceed to Working Group Last Call at this time?
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> james woodyatt<jhw@apple.com>
>> member of technical staff, communications engineering
>>
>>
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>>    
> 
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