Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-64share WGLC

[Mark ZZZ Smith <[e-mail]>]

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> From: Teemu Savolainen <[e-mail]>
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>Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-64share WGLC
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>The DNS handling might suite for draft-ietf-v6ops-mobile-device-profile Section 4, but in my opinion not to this document as it is not within the narrow scope.

Agree it is out of scope for this draft.

>Secondly, I don't agree DHCP server support is required, as the CE can include the DNS addresses in RAs as specified in RFC6106.
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How could a CE convey NTP server settings to hosts using RAs? Accurate host time is pretty useful, if not essential.



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>Best regards,
>Teemu
>On Sep 19, 2013 9:41 PM,  <[e-mail]> wrote:
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>Hello all,
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>>I believe this needs to be looked at. DNS server addresses are sent from the network to the mobile host ("CE" in this scenario) by outband 3GPP signalling and need to be queried by the CE OS driver from the radio chip.
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>>In order to convey the DNS information to the clients attached via the LAN, the CE performing 64share needs to handle the DHCP solicits and answer on the network's behalf because simply forwarding the DHCP solicits will not work at all (the network won't answer them).
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>>Holger
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>>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>Von: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]] Im Auftrag von Mark ZZZ Smith
>>Gesendet: Mittwoch, 18. September 2013 23:59
>>An: Teemu Savolainen; Tassos Chatzithomaoglou; [e-mail]
>>Betreff: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-64share WGLC
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>>+1
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>>This purpose here is to describe a work around to a limitation, not to specify how RAs/DHCPv6 are supposed to be generally used and what options are present in them. I don't think RA or DHCPv6 options that aren't essential or useful to this *specific* scenario should be mentioned at all. DNS in RAs is not special to or necessary to sharing a /64.
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>>Generally related to DHCPv6 option passing across a CE device (of which this would be one), I posted the following draft a while ago. I'd be interested in comments.
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>>"IPv6 CE Device DHCPv6 Option Transparency"
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>>http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-smith-v6ops-ce-dhcpv6-transparency-00
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>>>________________________________
>>> From: Teemu Savolainen <[e-mail]>
>>>To: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou <[e-mail]>; "[e-mail]"
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>>>Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 4:12 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-64share WGLC
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>>>IMHO it is better to keep this draft focused solely on address sharing, and not to go to other configuration topic or other possible problems.
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>>>Btw most often, as of now, the "original" DNS server addresses are received via link layer signaling (see http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-v6ops-rfc3316bis-06.txt section 2.10), and thus, for example, may need to be added to "proxied" RA.
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>>>Best regards,
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>>>Teemu
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>>>________________________________
>>> From: Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
>>>Sent: 15.9.2013 23:20
>>>To: [e-mail]
>>>Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-ietf-v6ops-64share WGLC
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>>>Just a quick question...
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>>>I don't see any reference of DNS servers under 3.1, only MTU & Prefix.
>>>Shouldn't there be a bullet showing that DNS info (UE address as DNS proxy, or original through-RA/DHCPv6 DNS servers) should also pass on the LAN link?
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>>>--
>>>Tassos
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>>>Fred Baker wrote on 15/9/2013 21:00:
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